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Poll Question: Which KGLW studio albums are your favorites?
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    Posted: August 11 2023 at 13:00
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I will have to check this band out. I have heard absolutely nothing by them.

I think the band name is awful though! (sorry to any fans of the band). Smile


There's a YouTube playlist in the first post of this poll.

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Originally posted by Octopus II Octopus II wrote:

I will have to check this band out. I have heard absolutely nothing by them.

I think the band name is awful though! (sorry to any fans of the band). Smile
Haha it's a silly band name but sort of works (for me) and somehow fit the music rather well. They were just a bunch of teenage freaks:

The band's name was created "last minute"; Mackenzie wanted to name the band "Gizzard Gizzard" while another band member wanted Jim Morrison's nickname "Lizard King". They eventually compromised with King Gizzard & the Lizard Wizard.

Anyway, you could do worse than starting with: Polygondwanaland, Changes & Nonagon Infinity. If none of those work for you at all, I guess they may not be for you.
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I will have to check this band out. I have heard absolutely nothing by them.

I think the band name is awful though! (sorry to any fans of the band). Smile
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^ I like band that can improvise and do it well (like Can), but I'm certainly not the biggest fan of jamming or jambands either. It's probably fun to play that way, but as a listener the end result often bores me. But King Gizzard usually pulls it off imo. They are creative and capable enough to not end up as a directionless and lazy jamrock band when they let themselves go. For me one of KG&LW's best qualities is their organic, playful feel, even when it's tightly composed. Playing and recording as much as they do probably has its advantages. They get very good at what they do. Good instincts.
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Originally posted by bardberic bardberic wrote:

Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Actually, now it's upgraded to the exclusive club of 4.5 stars-albums.
Changes, I mean.

The title track is one of my absolute favorite of theirs.


It really is a good and, surprisingly, underappreciated album.

It sounds like something they would have released in 2017, during their, what I consider to be, their peak, even though it was released last year, which I think was really otherise just a big letdown from them. I'm not personally a fan of the new jammier direction they're heading, but this album is great!

That album was apparentely started in 2017, so that would make sense.

I wasn't that psyched either when they announced they were entering a "jammy" era, but considering I really like Float Along and Quarters, maybe that's kind of unfounded. I haven't heard any of their 2022 releases in full yet though.
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Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Actually, now it's upgraded to the exclusive club of 4.5 stars-albums.
Changes, I mean.

The title track is one of my absolute favorite of theirs.


It really is a good and, surprisingly, underappreciated album.

It sounds like something they would have released in 2017, during their, what I consider to be, their peak, even though it was released last year, which I think was really otherise just a big letdown from them. I'm not personally a fan of the new jammier direction they're heading, but this album is great!
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Actually, now it's upgraded to the exclusive club of 4.5 stars-albums.
Changes, I mean.

The title track is one of my absolute favorite of theirs.
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Originally posted by bardberic bardberic wrote:

Originally posted by BrufordFreak BrufordFreak wrote:

Of the 12 KG LizWiz albums I've reviewed (so far), only one has achieved five star status: 

2022's Changes.


Glad I'm not the only one to recognize this album's brilliance
I gave Changes the same rating as you did. It just doesn't come across as clearly because I like so many more KG&LW albums a little more than you do. Btw: It's actually the fifth highest rated album of theirs on PA.
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Originally posted by BrufordFreak BrufordFreak wrote:

Of the 12 KG LizWiz albums I've reviewed (so far), only one has achieved five star status: 

2022's Changes.


Four star albums:
2014's Quarters !
2017's Flying Microtonal Banana and Polygondwandaland
2022's Omnium Gatherum, Ice, Death, Planets, Lungs, Mushrooms and Lava, and Laminated Denim
2023's PetroDragonic Apocalypse;  or,  Dawn of Eternal Night:  An Annihilation of Planet Earth and the Beginning of Merciless Damnation



Glad I'm not the only one to recognize this album's brilliance
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Awesoreno! King Gizz threads always pull me out of the shadows! Honestly forgot about Timeland when I was putting that list together, both the tracks have some really great moments, especially Smoke and Mirrors. I think as a whole the structure of the songs and sometimes random trajectory of them can lose me in certain sections, but I think it's a fun record. Laminated Denim on the other hand rings as a great little psyched out sleeper pick in their discography 
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Originally posted by Awesoreno Awesoreno wrote:

Despite being similar conceptually, I enjoyed Laminated Denim much more than Made in Timeland. Great to see Doug M back (for now)! Didn't see Timeland on your list there.
I think everyone except for me does (I enjoy both about as much). Made in Timeland is pretty much their least popular, least listened to and lowest rated album. It hasn't really been easily available for long either. That's why I felt like giving it some love. Laminated Denim is two krauty psychedelic jams, and obviously more pleasing for the average fan. As in totally in line of what to excpect from a KG&LW-release. And great. I'm sure you know Made in Timeland was originally made as intermission music to play at concerts in between their planned live-marathon sets (which was postponed by covid). That makes a whole lot of sense to me. But unsurprisingly KG&LW intermission music is right up my alley. To me it feels like a 2020's (or 2019) take on early Kraftwerk/NEU!/Harmonia/Cluster sort of EBM//Motorik* "rock" that doesn't rock. Ever evolving, playful, actually quite complex, but lovely and easy on the ears.

Btw: try these two "sister albums" as an hourlong double. Like this:

1. Timeland
2. The Land Before Timeland
3. Smoke & Mirrors
4. Hypertension

To me it seriously lifts them both to a higher level.
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Despite being similar conceptually, I enjoyed Laminated Denim much more than Made in Timeland. Great to see Doug M back (for now)! Didn't see Timeland on your list there.
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Of the 12 KG LizWiz albums I've reviewed (so far), only one has achieved five star status: 

2022's Changes.


Four star albums:
2014's Quarters !
2017's Flying Microtonal Banana and Polygondwandaland
2022's Omnium Gatherum, Ice, Death, Planets, Lungs, Mushrooms and Lava, and Laminated Denim
2023's PetroDragonic Apocalypse;  or,  Dawn of Eternal Night:  An Annihilation of Planet Earth and the Beginning of Merciless Damnation
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Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:


3.5 stars:
I'm in Your Mind Fuzz

Sorry, it's clearly (at least) a four. I just a bore.
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Don't skip Made in Timeland folks. This track (or the B-side) in particular is such a trip! 
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[QUOTE=bardberic]
 Note that these are ratings for when I'm sober - when I'm high, these ratings change significantly:

Haha, love that

As the resident King Gizz Super fan in these parts, here's where I stand.

5 Stars:
Live at Red Rocks (I was there!)
I'm In Your Mind Fuzz
Nonagon Infinity (back in college, me and my drummer friend used to jam this album front to back with me on guitar)

4.5 Stars:
Ice Death Planets Lungs Mushrooms and Lava
Polygondwanaland
L.W.
Infest the Rats Nest
Petrodragonic Apocalypse
Laminated Denim
Flying Microtonal Banana

4 Stars
Gumboot Soup
Fishing For Fishies
K.G.
Murder of the Universe
Changes (Change, the title track, is one of the best and most proggy Gentle Giant-esque things they've ever done)
Sketches of Brunswick East
Quarters
Float Along Fill Your Lungs

3.5 Stars
Omnium Gatherum (The Dripping Tap, their best song)
Paper Mache Dream Balloon

3 Stars
Butterfly 3000

2.5
Oddments, 12 Bar Bruise, Eyes Like the Sky


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Originally posted by bardberic bardberic wrote:


I feel like Buttrfly 3000 is King Gizz's most consistently midrange album - it's always ranked fairly high, but never top tier among the band's fans, but it's also never ranked low. It's interesting how everyone has a good, but not exceptional vibe with this album. Although, stoned bardberic would consider this one of the greatest albums of all time LOL

I feel like it usually ranks quite low on rating websites compared to most of their albums, including on RYM and here. I guess it might stray too far from what some people expect from KGLW

Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

I think by not primarely being a metal band themselves, KG&LW are somehow better at making albums about the end of the world and such - an wildly exhilarating fun and enjoyable ride. Something metal used to be great at, without even trying. Plus they know how to make those memorable riffs. I'm generalizing but most modern metal bands are tight, extremely good at what they do, but slightly faceless and often no fun. I actually prefer Stu's poppier, gentler singing style. Still in in the context of something resembling metal, it's refreshing with a voice that isn't Mr. generic growler number one millionth, but more of a human voice. 

I think a lot of thrash metal bands from this century stick too close to the golden days of the genre. Just like with bands that try to do 70's style prog, I prefer to listen to the originals rather than modern-day tributes. You can just tell they're derivative, and despite the sometimes terrible production of old thrash bands, I still prefer the sound of the 80's/90's for thrash overall. So KGLW's original take on the genre is very welcome IMO. There's a decent amount of people who saw Infest as a non-metal band intruding on the genre, but I'd much rather have this than 72 Seasons.

As for the poppier singing style, he does do metal vocals on ITRN, but I kind of wish he hadn't. The contrast between the fast riffs and the more operatic vocals of Joey Belladonna is one of the reasons I like Anthrax so much, and had KGLW stuck to that idea they would've further set themselves apart from the generic thrash crowd.

Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

And could it be that this microtonal thing sounds more exciting than it really is?

Honestly, I kinda think so. It sounds exotic, but from their microtonal albums it feels more same-y/limited than just our classic 12-TET scale. But then, I'm no expert on microtonality.
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So far it seems everyone sans bardberic loves Polygondwanaland, while Nonagon Infinity is the second most popular. Hardly surprising. Not enough votes to draw any kind of conclusions from really. But I had a feeling Flying Microtonal Banana was more popular outside of PA. And maybe I'm right about that. Or maybe not. Imo there's not a single bad song on it, and I enjoy the Turkish psych-vibes - so still a four out of five from me. But as a full album it does come across as somewhat uneventful and samey. At times. And could it be that this microtonal thing sounds more exciting than it really is?


 


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Out of the 11 I have listened to, my top 3 are Nonagon Infinity, Polygondwanaland, and Omnium Gatherum.
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