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    Posted: July 10 2023 at 13:36
It's not an album song and when I listen to Marillion I listen to studio albums. I heard Grendel many years ago but didn't remember a single note. You know what I mean? Of course the vocals, that's Fish but at first I didn't notice. The music was in the background, not too loud. I like Marillion's first 6 studio albums. Brave and Radiation are also pretty cool. Other than that, forget about Marillion. She likes Ocean Clouds a lot, she played that one too. But it's not my Marillion. Now that Grendel 19 minutes long version is my favorite Marillion track. Life.
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Originally posted by LSDisease LSDisease wrote:

Hi guys. It was Grendel. Not the standard version though. It was that Fair Deal 19 minutes long version. I was into discussion and other things and didn't notice. Thanx for help.


Your description match that of Grendrl but the insistence that it wasn't Marillion canceled that thought. I have heard the Fair Trade version and I think it's recognizable as Grendel by Marillion. Your friend must have a cheap phone.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote O666 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 10 2023 at 07:13
Originally posted by LSDisease LSDisease wrote:

Hi guys. It was Grendel. Not the standard version though. It was that Fair Deal 19 minutes long version. I was into discussion and other things and didn't notice. Thanx for help.

Are you kidding me?! Every Marillion fans can recognize Grendel is a Marillion song in first meet. Are you sure yiu are Marillion fan?!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote LSDisease Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 09 2023 at 13:53
Hi guys. It was Grendel. Not the standard version though. It was that Fair Deal 19 minutes long version. I was into discussion and other things and didn't notice. Thanx for help.

Edited by LSDisease - July 09 2023 at 13:55
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote richardh Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 06 2023 at 17:13
Originally posted by JD JD wrote:

Originally posted by Criswell Criswell wrote:

Maybe something here...

I only had to see ELP's Tarkus at the number one spot to know this person is clearly a wise and thoughtful Hammond Organ Driven Prog fan. Wink

edit: just noticed, 3 ELP in the top 20. Thumbs Up

But there is a ton of good stuff listed, to be sure.

nice to see Par Lindh at No3 as well
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote JD Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 06 2023 at 15:56
Originally posted by Criswell Criswell wrote:

Maybe something here...

I only had to see ELP's Tarkus at the number one spot to know this person is clearly a wise and thoughtful Hammond Organ Driven Prog fan. Wink

edit: just noticed, 3 ELP in the top 20. Thumbs Up

But there is a ton of good stuff listed, to be sure.


Edited by JD - July 06 2023 at 15:58
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Very interesting Criswell, Thx
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Other suggestions :

German band called SIXTY-NINE : Keys/Drums duo , lot of Hammond ( Armin Stöwe) of course, long tracks but shorter than 20 minutes. I heave their live record (double LP) , frenzy Hammond

UK band Quatermass , I have the first LP ( as a CD) , Trio with lot of Hammond by J. Robertson (later with Brand X , with Bowie (Low), ... ), mid-length tracks (8/10 minutes) , never listen to their 2nd LP

to be continued..
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Originally posted by LSDisease LSDisease wrote:

It's not Rare Bird, thanks for posting though, it's a very good song. I think the band I'm looking for is most likely British. Can be German though. I remember Birth Control's Operation and Hoodoo Man, that was pretty intense. I try to find something that's similar but it's not that easy. There's a song by Birth Control called Just Before the Sun Will Rise, you got this fast snare drum tempo and organ on the top of that. It was also in the same mood. Starts at 2:00 add aggressive vocals and well... It was that tempo, go fast then pause, then fast again. 

Anyway I'll shazam the song when she's back from Norway.


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It's not Rare Bird, thanks for posting though, it's a very good song. I think the band I'm looking for is most likely British. Can be German though. I remember Birth Control's Operation and Hoodoo Man, that was pretty intense. I try to find something that's similar but it's not that easy. There's a song by Birth Control called Just Before the Sun Will Rise, you got this fast snare drum tempo and organ on the top of that. It was also in the same mood. Starts at 2:00 add aggressive vocals and well... It was that tempo, go fast then pause, then fast again. 

Anyway I'll shazam the song when she's back from Norway.
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As mentioned before, it's hard to know without listening to it. So many prog songs could fit that description.
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Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

I think you may have answered your own question - sounds like Van Der Graaf Generator

Fish was prone to sounding like Pete Hammill at times and was heavily influenced by him.


Yep. Sounds like maybe "Plague of Lighthouse Keepers" although I don't think there's any crazy hammond organ on that. 




I agree, Hammond is of course present but PoaLK is not a Hammond centered epic.
Hammill' vox and Jaxon's saxophones are more obvious features of VDGG 70' era music.

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Originally posted by Necrotica Necrotica wrote:

Originally posted by mellotronwave mellotronwave wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sfzY7DmX5w

Sorry i don't know how to upload active links :-(


Wow, that sounds a lot like what LSDisease was describing! Smile



I shazamed my song proposition from minute 7.35 on and it has been quickly and correctly identified as Rare Bird's Flight



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Originally posted by mellotronwave mellotronwave wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sfzY7DmX5w

Sorry i don't know how to upload active links :-(

Wow, that sounds a lot like what LSDisease was describing! Smile
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sfzY7DmX5w

Sorry i don't know how to upload active links :-(
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Suggestion :
Band : Rare Bird : UK 1970 LP : As your mind flies by Track : Flight a near 20 minutes epic in four parts ( 1.As your mind flies by 2.Vacuum 3.New Yorker 4.Central Park)
...full of Hammond
A band from The Famous Charisma Label team


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Beardfish perhaps? "If we must be apart" for example has quite a few of the elements you mentions, although it's only 15 minute slong.

Edited by Angelo - July 05 2023 at 16:10
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^ Atomic Rooster? Heavy 70s band with a lot of B3.
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The lyrics? No, not really. I remember the first part of the song was rather soft. Then it became heavy, that was really aggressive but also repetitive. It was definitely in the 70's style but maybe the band wasn't that old. I don't know. It wasn't bluesy or jazzy, it was rock driven Hammond organ extravaganza. It was in fact as aggressive as heavy metal but it wasn't metal. The vocals, firstly soft later became aggressive too. The problem is, that it didn't sound like anything else, I mean that heavy part. I mentioned VDGG cos that was the closest thing that came to my mind, there's that insane part in Plague of Lighthouse Keepers. But I think it was less chaotic. The rhythm section got something to do with Uriah Heep, it was rather fast. I mean, it definitely wasn't a top 20 prog band. I think the key may be vocals and the length (how many 20 minute long suites do we have?). 
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