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    Posted: July 18 2023 at 06:27
Chris Wolstenholme of Muse has such an instrument, built by Status, bass + keyboard, should be fun


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Yes, M-10 is the one. Mine has some custom settings that my friend installed including a note repeater. I like to use the rhythm sections on the later Casios for making recordings. You can blend different rhythms and run them through phase shifter, compressor, reverb etc and get some interesting sounds.

The Casio keyboard sounds were purely electronic up until about the early 90s when their sounds became more sample based. I prefer the early electronic ones, but the CTK 630 (mid-90s) has some really cool features in the rhythm section that never appeared in any subsequent models.

I also wanted to hang my Casio from a guitar so I could do keyboard-guitar battles by myself, sort of as a joke, but never got around to it.

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Originally posted by Easy Money Easy Money wrote:

I have the first Casio model ever made, I knew someone who worked for them. I also have many different models down through the years. Its interesting how they changed over time.
I have one that proclaims it has "Pulse Code Modulation". I also have the one you are showing that did short eight bit samples. It was sold at Macys of all places.

Cool, nice to meet you!  I also had what I think was the first Casio...I believe it was their "M-10."   It had only a few settings, including a very nice pipe organ as I recall!  I intended to mount it onto a guitar so I would have a "double-neck" instrument (6 string guitar on top, with keyboard mounted on the bottom) but alas, I lent it to a friend and never saw it again!  

Run those suckers through a bunch of guitar stomp boxes like chorus, wah-wah etc. and you can really crank some tunes!  It's too bad that I'm such a plonker of a keyboard player!  LOL

Here, this is hilarious!  Mark Mothersbaugh of DEVO is shown playing one!!  (...is DEVO "prog??")






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I have the first Casio model ever made, I knew someone who worked for them. I also have many different models down through the years. Its interesting how they changed over time.
I have one that proclaims it has "Pulse Code Modulation". I also have the one you are showing that did short eight bit samples. It was sold at Macys of all places.

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Originally posted by Easy Money Easy Money wrote:

Yeah, I guess thats it. I was trying to remember which stop turned on the strings, maybe one on the left there.

Anyway, I have two old string synths you probably know about, ARP Quartet which does brass, strings, organ and piano on a shortened keyboard (shorter that the String Ensemble) and the Crumar Orchestrator, which does strings and other stuff on a longer keyboard. Crumar and Univox used to make keyboards that emulated the major companies for a smaller price.

I'm a big fan of cheap keyboards!  I'll put a 1/4" guitar jack on them and play them through 50 watt guitar amps!!  

I've got one of these, it is great fun! 


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Yes I know about the ARP Quartet and the Crumar Orchestrator, although just from hearing / reading about them. The Quartet was another deal ARP made with the Italian Siel to market the Siel Orchestra with the ARP name, same as what they did with the String Ensemble made by the Dutch Eminent-Solina.
I know you have a very nice collection of keyboards! Smile
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Yeah, I guess thats it. I was trying to remember which stop turned on the strings, maybe one on the left there.

Anyway, I have two old string synths you probably know about, ARP Quartet which does brass, strings, organ and piano on a shortened keyboard (shorter that the String Ensemble) and the Crumar Orchestrator, which does strings and other stuff on a longer keyboard. Crumar and Univox used to make keyboards that emulated the major companies for a smaller price.
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Originally posted by Easy Money Easy Money wrote:

^ That would be my guess based on the information that you have provided. The Lowery Symphoniser that I played on at the music store was a sort of short lived high end Lowrey organ that had a string symphoniser as an add on to the organ.
A bit of research revealed that the Lowrey organ which had the integrated Symphoniser (string machine) was the Symphonic Theater H25-3 model.


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Emerson rolled around on stage with a Hammond L100. That was a pretty common home organ. We had one sitting in our living room growing up.
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Originally posted by Gerinski Gerinski wrote:

The String Ensemble was first made by the Dutch company Eminent-Solina, and then ARP made a deal with them to sell it with the name ARP. Thanks to the commercial network of ARP the most successful version was the ARP one.

And yes, the Orchestron was an attempt to take over on the Mellotron, but it came too late and it ws expensive, the electronic string machines were much more practical.


IMHO the consumer-marketed Optigan actually had better sounds than its big brother the Orchestron.
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The String Ensemble was first made by the Dutch company Eminent-Solina, and then ARP made a deal with them to sell it with the name ARP. Thanks to the commercial network of ARP the most successful version was the ARP one.

And yes, the Orchestron was an attempt to take over on the Mellotron, but it came too late and it ws expensive, the electronic string machines were much more practical.
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^ That would be my guess based on the information that you have provided. The Lowery Symphoniser that I played on at the music store was a sort of short lived high end Lowrey organ that had a string symphoniser as an add on to the organ.

Re the Solina you mentioned: when I used to go to music stores in the mid 70s, they often had a ARP String Ensemble, I suppose this was what was later called a Solina, the bigger store in Dallas also had a Mellotron, plus a keyboard that used literal floppy disks called an Orchestron. It sounded similar to a Mellotron. I tried out a lot of keyboards in the 70s and still collect 70s keyboards and synths to this day.



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This was the Lowrey-Freeman Symphoniser of 1974, it could well be that Lowrey released also an organ including the strings synth as an add-on.




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Here's my son performing Clotho from ELP's The Three Fates on my mom's Lowrey organ. Wink



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I'm sure most prog keyboardists started out on an inexpensive home organ of some kind!  

I used to mike and amplify cheap hobby organs through guitar pedals.  It gave some amazing sounds in the home studio!  
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^ There was a high end Lowery organ I would play on at a music store in Dallas called a Symphoniser.
I believe the symphoniser part was sort of an add on to the organ, and it sounded very much like synth strings.
This was still a Lowrey organ, it had the cheesy rhythm machine, auto acccompaniment and everything. It was the most expensive Lowrey in the shop.

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Pete Townshend of The Who also used a Lowrey organ



Originally posted by Easy Money Easy Money wrote:

The Pete Sinfield solo album uses a Symphoniser, which was the ultimate high end Lowrey.

If you allow me to be a bit nitpicky, the Symphoniser was a String Machine rather than an organ. In fact it was the first String Machine, invented by the brit Ken Freeman in 1969, although his deal with CMI-Lowrey to produce it came only in 1974, while the dutch Eminent-Solina released the first commercial String Machine integrated in their Eminent 310 Unique organ, famously used by Jean-Michel Jarre, in 1972 (and they released the strings module as a stand-alone instrument, the Solina String Ensemble, also in 1974, becoming the most successful string machine).

The full story can be found in my book "The Musical Instruments of Progressive Rock; An Illustrated Guide" Smile.


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Not prog, but Gotye had a song called State of the Art heavily dedicated to the home Lowrey organ.

Also, check out this live version of Za Krokem Zen by Blue Effect. It seems Oldrich Vesely is playing one of those home/theater organs there.




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