2 STARS?

I've caught flack for some of my reviews in the past. Hey, the guy is entitled to his opinion.

Yeh, but it was bought by 30 million young teen girls who have grown up now and given that album to the Salvation Army... and can you blame them... what happened to Peter Frampton??!!!

BTW... I downloaded "I'm In You" recently... even I like that song...

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emdiar wrote: If you guys are happy discussing such controversial subjects as "how pretty is pretty boy Greg Lake's  pretty baby face," and the like, then pray continue, and I'll nip off for a snooze! (Threefates,.)

Yes please... lets discuss more!!!!!

It's like this folks; now and then this forum gets a bit pedestrian, dull and devoid of grit, not often, but it happens. I just wanted to be a bit provocative, that's all. If you guys are happy discussing such controversial subjects as "how pretty is pretty boy Greg Lake's  pretty baby face," and the like, then pray continue, and I'll nip off for a snooze!

Pigeons cry out to have cats put amongst them, in my world.

(Threefates,.)

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emdiar wrote: Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgggggggggggggghhh hhhhhhh! That's it now loike, Oi aye plaayin no mooa. Yowm orl pickin on me aye ya? Oi've sed oi'm sorry aye oi? Wot mooa d'yow lot wont, cowin blud or summat? Oi doh moind pickin mi waay fru ard ta reed stuf loike, but mek it wuffwhoile. If yow aye got nowt t'back yower comments up wiv, doh bovver Oi say.

Em's right...let's lay off, he's atoned for his sin (which, in truth, was very small in the first place and was very quickly & sincerely retracted).

Take heart em. You started a good thread...whatever you do, don't stop contributing, your posts are always worthwhile!

"Never 'for the sake of peace and quiet' deny your own experience or convictions"

- Dag Hammarskjöld

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgggggggggggggghhh hhhhhhh!

That's it now loike, Oi aye plaayin no mooa. Yowm orl pickin on me aye ya? Oi've sed oi'm sorry aye oi? Wot mooa d'yow lot wont, cowin blud or summat? Oi doh moind pickin mi waay fru ard ta reed stuf loike, but mek it wuffwhoile. If yow aye got nowt t'back yower comments up wiv, doh bovver Oi say.

I too have real problems listening to any Floyd (and I've tried) after Meddle, and most certainly  I just can't abide DSOTM, (I bought the CD version because somebody at the time said it was great for check out the hifi!!!). I've asked myself why the album is so popular? Perhaps its popularity is one reason (but why follow the sheep...), but this tied to being so radio-friendly, so  being played to death, (ditto Sgt Pepper). For instance, that cash-register thing seemed to preface most radio programmes on finance for decade or more - that sound is now guaranteed to have me turning off that programme. And Roger Waters never helped. But too I grew up when there were two British psychedelic bands to listen to and hear something new: The Soft Machine and The Pink Floyd. Floyd provided the sounds to relax and float down stream; Soft Machine were merging allsorts of music and were restless. Simply for me The Soft Machine evolved much quicker and provided a greater mental challenge.  Floyd stayed put for too long providing the continuous soundtrack for the Brit Hippies, who had tuned in and dropped out. Floyd never got back in.

As for sales statistic: so what?  How many of you confess to having Peter Frampton's Comes Alive (is it still the best selling double album?), or Fleetwood Mac's Rumours or whatever Michael Jackson album allowed him to purchase  menagerie of chimps and kids?

And when somebody cares to spend time and effort writing a review, pleases ladies and gentlemen don't insult that person. In this part of the  democratic world, we have the right to have freedom of expression, even if others disagree. If you want to show what that person writes and thinks is possibly wrong, then demonstrate your English skills in providing a reasoned critique. However, based on what I've read above so far, and to paraphrase BTO - 'I aint seen nothing yet'.

hmmmm....a prog album more than perhaps any other? me not tink so (IMHO of course)
If one needs an *undeniably prog* album, there can really be no other than TALES FROM TOPOGRAPHIC OCEANS.
DSOTM is an excellent, ground-breaking album... but if you really split the badger up into its constituent parts you are actually left with an album which is decidely *un-prog*.... Wish you were here.... is much, much MUCH more proggy. THE WALL... is definitely MORE MUCH MORE proggy. DSOTM flows...but is not (IMHO) a true concept/prog album for it can be split into its consecutive parts and still *stand*.  It is however one of my fave albums...from time to time (-.o).
Animals...is more proggy than DSOTM...
People rave about DSOTM as if it was their greatest moment...cos it found its way in one form aor another onto public-house jukeboxes... well, sorry to burst the *non-floyd-fan's* bubble but it was by a *long shot* NOT their greatest moment.
Awesome....yes it is
Profound... yes it is
Infinitely listenable... yes it is

Their best? and their most *prog*?
No way sparky

Emdiar wrote:

Your review, much like your command of English, is very poor.

Emdiar I know you have apologized and  believe it's a great gesture, but as a non native English speaker have to give my opinion even when it's a bit late.

As you must remember I was the first one to write a post against reviews in other languages for respect to the owners and readers of Progarchives, but to criticize someone for not using a complex and extended vocabulary is absolutely different and sounds a bit xenophobic.

Nobody except people who have a different native language can understand how difficult is for us to write a coherent review in English, most of us think in our native language and have to translate the ideas to English finding that there are not adequate words to express what we thought in our languages.

I had the luck to start learning English before I was three years and lived in the States so learned to think in English, but still have problems with some words, that's why I can easily understand the trouble Andrea has, and can't do anything but encourage her for the effort. She has the merit of writting in a hostile language (Every language except our native one is hostile).

About her review: I can't disagree more with her opinion about DSOTM, IMHO is a masterpiece but she is entitled to her own taste an opinion, and even if we believe she's wrong, everybody should respect what she honestly writes.

I also admire her courage to write something hard about an album that 99% of prog fans love, that's very brave.

Iván

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Arbiter:

The original post was meant to be provocative. I had already apologised, and explained that it was way past my bed time, and that I had spat the proverbial dummy, long before you chipped in. If this explanaition for the judgemental tone of my post (which I did and do not deny, I even held my hands up to sounding "snobby") is not good enough for you, then I'm sorry.

By omitting the last part of my post you seek to imply that I am unaware of the convolutedness of my criticism, and am therefore throwing stones in a glass house. You and I know that that is not the case. I was being convoluted by design, to illustrate my point. In order to make extra sure that no one would jump up and say "ha, thats the pot calling the kettle black", I added the self mockery myself to save you the bother. Had this not been the case I would have rewritten the lot instead. I am very well aware of the meaning(s) of the word irony,

"a mock adoption of another's views or lauditory tone to ridicule"

In this case, a mock adoption of anothers inarticulation in order to illustrate a point of ridicule.

 

ps, , a good night's sleep works wonders, I'm not really the grouch I sound, or half as pompous!

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