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    Posted: March 14 2009 at 13:57
Originally posted by The Pessimist The Pessimist wrote:

If I'm honest personally, I didn't agree with Metallica's addition. Or Iron Maiden and Nightwish for that matter. Now Stratovarius? What's next, Dragonforce? I'm sick of all this pussy metal trying to invade the archives and their fans thinking they are progressive just because they merge metal and melody... Even the brutal band Nile are more progressive and experimental than Stratovarius, and I wouldn't consider them a worthy Archives addition. Seriously, if you take a great look at all the bands in the Tech/Post/Experimental/Progressive Metal genres on here, you will soon find that Stratovarius are nothing like them. Just a typical power metal band. This isn't MelodicMetalArchives for crying out loud, give the staff some f**king space!


Wow, quite some confusion here ... I guess you didn't really mean that Metallica are "pussy metal"?Wink

Anyway, you're free to join me at Progfreak.com in determining the prog status of (metal) albums. Smile
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Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

^Actually, the last Sonata Arctica album, UNIA, was very related to prog-metal....if their career had been more like that, my vote would be different
 
I do not have UNIA... But I have listen to UNIA. And yes, I'm agreee with you!
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If I'm honest personally, I didn't agree with Metallica's addition. Or Iron Maiden and Nightwish for that matter. Now Stratovarius? What's next, Dragonforce? I'm sick of all this pussy metal trying to invade the archives and their fans thinking they are progressive just because they merge metal and melody... Even the brutal band Nile are more progressive and experimental than Stratovarius, and I wouldn't consider them a worthy Archives addition. Seriously, if you take a great look at all the bands in the Tech/Post/Experimental/Progressive Metal genres on here, you will soon find that Stratovarius are nothing like them. Just a typical power metal band. This isn't MelodicMetalArchives for crying out loud, give the staff some f**king space!
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^Actually, the last Sonata Arctica album, UNIA, was very related to prog-metal....if their career had been more like that, my vote would be different
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Originally posted by Plankowner Plankowner wrote:

.. and before we jump ship to Sonata Arctica
 
Sonata Arctica          
 
Sonata Artica is only a great example of Revival Classic Metal band!
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Points: 17493 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 12 2009 at 11:14
Originally posted by HughesJB4 HughesJB4 wrote:

Teo is the only guy that didn't vote a definite no.

QUICK TEO, CHANGE YOU VOTE TO NO TO FURTHER HELP SLAM DOWN ANYONE THAT TRIES TO SUGGEST THEM FOR ADDITION!!LOL
 
mmm.... what if I am a messenger of chaos? Tongue
 
Really, my heart is always the softer for metal acts... as you can see... Tongue
 
No, really... once they repeair my internet connection (I'm logging in from my collegeOuch) I'll add my vote to the pile....
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Teo is the only guy that didn't vote a definite no.

QUICK TEO, CHANGE YOU VOTE TO NO TO FURTHER HELP SLAM DOWN ANYONE THAT TRIES TO SUGGEST THEM FOR ADDITION!!LOL
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.. and before we jump ship to Sonata Arctica
 
Sonata Arctica          
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Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

Originally posted by HughesJB4 HughesJB4 wrote:

Stratovarius  
   
Prog Metal Chart: Rejected





hahahha... yep... that sort of says it all doesn't it LOL


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I've never seen so many votes of the same kind in my life!
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Points: 24439 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 11 2009 at 07:15
I just wonder if there will be the same reactions as there were for Iron Maiden if they get added to Prog-RelatedWink...
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Originally posted by HughesJB4 HughesJB4 wrote:

Stratovarius  
   
Prog Metal Chart: Rejected





hahahha... yep... that sort of says it all doesn't it LOL
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Stratovarius  
   
Prog Metal Chart: Rejected

If the fact that this band has not just 3, BUT A WHOLE 10 no votes to their (as well as an "unsure" vote) name doesn't mean anything to people, please blow my brains out with a 12 gauge shotgun, because the fact that people keep bumping this thread every month or so is really starting to get on my nerves.
Seriously, the PMT has PROG METAL bands that need taking care of.
I kindly request that this topic stop being bumped, because it's not going to go anywhere.
I'm not changing my mind on this band, nor is any other PMT member, so just give it a goddamn rest, christ sake.
We currently have a backlog of 82 bands that have actually been approved and cleared for addition and we are working our asses off to get that done.
If anyone would like to help us get that done, that's great, but please, let us do our work without being hassled every month or so about a band we are never going to add.


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Originally posted by akin akin wrote:

yes, people learned a lot with metallica case...


To simply keep asking is not what lead to the inclusion of Metallica ... if people drew that conclusion from the Metallica inclusion, they're sadly mistaken.Wink
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god Mandy.. you need to change that avatar.. it scares me man.. looks like a bad ad for men's hair-care products...
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Metallica, Sonata Artica...
 
No... Stratovarius is a good PR band. This yes!!!
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yes, people learned a lot with metallica case...
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Points: 20057 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 06 2009 at 07:27
Good Lord, is this still going on?
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No you're wrong. That is because I think if this site is coherent, it should do exactly what I said. Metallica, Stratovarius, Sonata Arctica, etc, are at the same level of many prog metal/prog related (included because they are either prog metal related or proto-prog metal) bands in the site.
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Points: 5851 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 04 2009 at 04:03
Originally posted by HughesJB4 HughesJB4 wrote:

Originally posted by Mandrakeroot Mandrakeroot wrote:

Hard to say if Stratovarius is a Prog Metal band, for me. I believe that 90% of Classic Metal Revival bands are Prog Metal, in one way or another.
 
You see dream Child, Syslesia or Heavenly... There are not Prog Mtal bands?
 
For me... These bands are Prog Metal at the same level of Stratovarius!


So your saying, if they are prog metal at the same level of Stratovarious, then they're not actually prog metal then?Wink
 
I was referring to the movement in general. In fact too of the Revival of Classic Metal (at least here in Europe) inserted Prog arrangement into a 100% Power Metal structure.
 
But certainly I have given three examples (Dream Child and Dyslesia are 2 French band who are Prog Metal, in my opinion [and not just in my opinion]) by three bands of which I had the CD in hand at that time.
 
I also added a suggestion for the inclusion of Dream Child.
 
About Stratovarius: For me Stratovarius is a good band in the vein of Rainbow, Warlord, Alcatrazz, Dio, Deep Purple and similars but with more Speed Metal attitude and with great Power ballads. In my opinion Stratovarius is only one of the best Classic Metal revival bands.


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Originally posted by The_Stranger The_Stranger wrote:

Totally Agre. Stratovarius deserves to enter although they play mostly melodic powermetal. But when you listen to some tracks of "Visions" or "Elements. Part I" you must admit that sometimes is more than just simple power metal.

And yes... If Nightwish deserves to be here I wonder why Stratovarius are not in this list


I'm on the Progressive Metal Team and feel that Nightwish don't deserve to be on the list.
Stratovarius deserve a position just as muchWink



Edited by HughesJB4 - March 03 2009 at 16:04
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