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Topic: Why Close to the Edge the best? Posted: November 25 2005 at 23:14 |
An epiphonic moment in the history of prog.
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Posted: November 25 2005 at 23:05 |
Progger wrote:
The Miracle wrote:
Foxtrot is superior to CTTE if you ask me.
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You gotta be kiddin'! Right? Foxtrot has one great track on it, CTTE is supreme throughout!
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I'll go further, IMO Foxtrot and Nursery Cryme are better than Close to the Edge.
BTW: Foxtrot one song? What about Can-Utility, Watcher of the Skies, Horizons?
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Posted: November 25 2005 at 13:13 |
The Miracle wrote:
Foxtrot is superior to CTTE if you ask me.
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You gotta be kiddin'! Right? Foxtrot has one great track on it, CTTE is supreme throughout!
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Posted: November 25 2005 at 13:08 |
Why CTTE is best you say? Well because it isn't. The intro of the title
track lacks energy and Steve's guitar sounds a bit "amateurish"
(probably not a real word). After that the song's fine. And You and I
is the best track on the album. Everything's done perfectly (but...).
Siberian Khatru (hope spelled right) is a good song but Yes has done
better. (...but if all of the songs would have been done like they were
on Yessongs then CTTE would have been the best album from Yes. On
Yessongs the tracks had much more power and "professionism" (probably
not a word again) in them. I prefer Fragile by the way.
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Posted: November 24 2005 at 20:39 |
Tormato wrote:
I met CTTE when I was a teenager and was deep into Black Sabbath and Alice Cooper, Led Zepp and Deep Purple, and I really hated it! It was "Tormato" the one that opened the door for me, 5 years later. Only after Tormato, Yesterdays, Drama and Fragil I could appreciate the sheer beauty of CTTE. It wasn't easy. But now it's been my favorite for 20 years and counting.
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good story man
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Tormato
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Posted: November 24 2005 at 17:42 |
I met CTTE when I was a teenager and was deep into Black Sabbath and Alice Cooper, Led Zepp and Deep Purple, and I really hated it! It was "Tormato" the one that opened the door for me, 5 years later. Only after Tormato, Yesterdays, Drama and Fragil I could appreciate the sheer beauty of CTTE. It wasn't easy. But now it's been my favorite for 20 years and counting.
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I like Tormato, so shoot me! Every person in the world can't think the same.
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Posted: November 24 2005 at 17:11 |
The Miracle wrote:
Foxtrot is superior to CTTE if you ask me. |
no way
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Phil
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Posted: November 24 2005 at 16:41 |
Each to their own as to whether they think it's "the best" or whether any peice of music can be "the best".
For me personally it was the first album I heard that made me think...took me manyl listens to get into it. I'd just never heard anything like that before. Even now I find new things each time I hear it. And yes, for me personally, I think it is the best album I've heard but I don't expect anyone else to agree! It's just nice to find some other people rate it so highly as well.
But it would be a very unexciting world if everyone agreed with me!!!
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Posted: November 24 2005 at 16:26 |
Why not?
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Thickasabrick12
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Posted: November 24 2005 at 16:18 |
oliverstoned wrote:
i prefer fragile |
me too,but close to the edge is fantastic. I mean really,2 epics and a great songs(and not to mention the bonus track "america"). Its a great album
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Posted: November 24 2005 at 07:25 |
It's good ,up there with the best. but also a bit overrated. I don't think it is the best buy you could make.At it's high points it may rise above it's competitors but it's not that long and feels stretched and has mostly weak lyrics.I love JA's voice so it is one criticism I don't agree with .
I'd rate Fragile and Relayer better albums and Thick As a Brick more enjoyable ( maybe the most enjoyable album ever ) and Foxtrot is much more voluminous while being incredibly good from beginning to end.
So it doesn't win on all criteria but seems to the largest number of people to win on enough
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How wonderful to be so profound
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Posted: November 24 2005 at 07:04 |
It just is the best,dont ask stupid guestions. !!!  
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Frank Zappa,Pink Floyd,Yes,Genesis,Rush,King Crimson,Jethro Tull,E.L.P,Rick Wakeman -They have one similarity- I Love Them all !
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Posted: November 23 2005 at 22:45 |
The album is great and the song is good, but there are some albums in the same or even higher level.
The difference is made in the Rick Wakeman solo on the title track, absolutely Baroque, defines Symphonic in a couple of minutes.
Iván
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theBox
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Posted: November 23 2005 at 18:06 |
First of all, I like close to the edge very much. Hell, I love all yes albums up to and including drama!
However, when compared to relayer or (especially) Tales, i think ctte
pales in comparison. Let me ask you one thing: Doesn't any one of you
think that the title track is alittle bit TOO repetitive for a 18min
song? Of course this is highly subjective and is only my opinion...
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Posted: November 23 2005 at 17:56 |
Ytse Jam wrote:
Why people think that Close to the Edge is the best prog album? or one of the bests?
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Because of the song entitled "And You And I".
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Posted: November 23 2005 at 17:47 |
Ytse Jam wrote:
Why people think that Close to the Edge is the best prog album? or one of the bests?
I didn't liked the vocals.. |
That's fine... there is nothing wrong with that, If you don't like the vocal.  And yes.. I like Foxtrot better.
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...this is called....BleedingGum ... !
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Biggles
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Posted: November 23 2005 at 17:45 |
CTTE is just sheer genius. That anyone would have the technical and compositional ability to compose and to perform the title track is just completely beyond me. And You And I and Siberian Khatru are also brilliant. Easily one of the best prog albums ever, if not the best.
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The crux of the biscuit is the apostrophe.
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Posted: November 23 2005 at 13:54 |
The Miracle wrote:
Foxtrot is superior to CTTE if you ask me.
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I agree, but CTTE is still a masterpiece.
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One likes to believe
In the freedom of music
But glittering prizes
And endless Compromises
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Posted: November 23 2005 at 13:53 |
Guyute wrote:
How could you say you didn't like the vocals on
CTTE?? Did you listen to them? The vocals are awesome, the whole album is
excellent. I agree though that Foxtrot might be just a bit better.
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I didn't like the vocals after the first listen (to fragile, being my first yes
album.) Jon Anderson's vocal took me a while to get used to, but now I like it
a lot. Read the reviews for the reasons why the album is so good. It took a
while for me to get into (after owning just Fragile) but once I understood it,
it remains as one my favorite Yes with Relayer.
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One likes to believe
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Posted: November 23 2005 at 13:44 |
sleeper wrote:
I dont find CTTE particurly interesting but to each their own i guess |
I feel the same
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