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ANDREW 
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Posted: November 29 2005 at 15:25 |
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Zooka_Jesus
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Posted: November 29 2005 at 15:19 |
all carl palmer does is play slighty faster than the average rock drummer, i voted for bill
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Posted: November 29 2005 at 15:03 |
 StyLaZyn wrote:
OK...perhaps I forgot one or two. These were the ones I listened to the most back in the late 70's. There were other none Prog drummers, but due to this website focus, I omitted them. |
What's everyone's view on the influencers drummers of today? I hear much fast playing (rolls and double bass stuff) in Modern/Extreme rock as well as Metal. Fast doesn't translate to Prog of course, but for the bands of today, do the Prog drummers of old have influence? I'm sure Danny Carey of Tool had some influence from the masters and I bet Crimson had a huge impact on his style, not to mention the band as a whole. More info, I heard on a radio interview with the band Seven Mary Three that the drummer used to be a huge Peart fan, but he plays nothing like Peart as you can tell by hearing their music.
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Posted: November 25 2005 at 14:26 |
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Tough choice, but I went for Bruford other than him it would have been Carl
Palmer.
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Posted: November 25 2005 at 14:01 |
ALL THE DRUMMERS OF THE LIST ARE GREAT, AND THEY INFLUENCED A LOT OF BANDS AND "YOUNG" OR "NEW" DRUMMERS...
MY VOTE´S FOR BRUFORD 
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Posted: November 25 2005 at 08:23 |
ivan_2068 wrote:
Most influential could be Bruford, Collins, Palmer or Peart, all have a lot of followers and fans.
Iván
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True Ivan, but most progressive rock drummers of nowadays are directly in debted to Bill Bruford as for Peart and Collins were seriously influenced by Bill.
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Posted: November 25 2005 at 00:37 |
Most influential could be Bruford, Collins, Palmer or Peart, all have a lot of followers and fans.
Best: Phil Ehart and after him Manu Katche.
Iván
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Tommy
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Posted: November 24 2005 at 02:29 |
Defineatly Palmer!!!!!!!!! 
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Posted: November 24 2005 at 02:16 |
Billy Cobham kinda smokes them all on the 1973
Spectrum album. 
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Posted: November 23 2005 at 19:06 |
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In my opinion, Neil Peart... Since the 80's I'm hearing many drummers that have the style of Peart, more than Palmer, Bruford (more jazzy I think) or Collins... You listed John Bonham but I think that Keith Moon (The Who) is more important than him as a drummer...
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Posted: November 23 2005 at 14:27 |
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Posted: November 23 2005 at 13:54 |
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Bruford
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Most listened albums last week
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Posted: November 23 2005 at 13:21 |
Since Bruford and Peart get mentioned a lot, it would be good to point out one big difference between the two. Peart is from the school of thought that what ever you play on the albums is exactly what you have to play live. It's a very robotic mentality. Bruford on the other hand, comes from the school of improvisation, that says it's not only good, but healthy, to alter things live. The free-form flexibility of Bruford's approach is a lot more interesting and expressive, not only for the musician himself/herself, but for the listener too.
I still say that much of Peart's appeal comes from his lyrics writing, instead of pure drumming.
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Posted: November 23 2005 at 11:46 |
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brufford is more important, but Peart had more influence in almost any rock drummer post-Rush.
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Posted: November 23 2005 at 11:44 |
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Posted: November 23 2005 at 11:43 |
rockandrail wrote:
What about Mike Giles? A lot of drummers started drumming like him after ITCOTCK was released |
In another thread I also mentioned the absence of Giles.
From the list I vote for BRUFORD.
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Charles
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Posted: November 23 2005 at 11:34 |
rockandrail wrote:
What about Mike Giles? A lot of drummers started drumming like him after ITCOTCK was released |
My original post started out mentioning that, two others I also mentioned were Carl Palmer and Jim Hiseman (Listen to his drumming on "Valentyne Suite") but I was hoping that someone else would mention that so that the thread would not seem like me being a wiseguy no it all....
But getting back to the thread, How many artists when they heard King Crimson's debut did not want to be like Robert Fripp? Steve Hackett for one was a disciple... Or sing as heavenly like Greg Lake? Expand on the creepy Mellotron washes from Ian McDonald? Tony Banks, Brian Eno and Peter Bardens.... Michael Giles helped influence Bill Bruford, Guy Evans, Andy McCollough, Andy Ward the list can become ponderous.... but many associate Prog drumming to Bill Bruford more than any other dumming this side of Neil Peart....
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Posted: November 23 2005 at 11:30 |
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I love Peart, but I think he's not a pure prog drummer, having also played in a more hard rock-heavy metal style, and as such having influenced most prog-metal drummers. Bruford, though, is the archetypal prog drummer, therefore the most influential in the genre.
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rockandrail
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Posted: November 23 2005 at 11:17 |
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What about Mike Giles? A lot of drummers started drumming like him after ITCOTCK was released
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Pierre R, the man who lost his signature
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Charles
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Posted: November 23 2005 at 11:10 |
Thank you Phil...
One thing I forgot to mention is that Phil Collins mistakenly became a pioneer (or innovator?) when Peter and Hugh Padgham over compensated for not having cymbals being played on Peter's 3 album, which started the "gate reverb" sound that dominated the way drums were recorded during the 80's...
Thanks Phil!
Charles
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