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    Posted: December 15 2007 at 15:54
Originally posted by Eetu Pellonpää Eetu Pellonpää wrote:

Originally posted by anael anael wrote:

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Ruphus Zuphall is not folk IMHOSmile



Have you heard Weiss Der Teufel?
If not listen to Spanferkel or Freitag...then you decide

A great album! They have folk elements, mostly in "Avalon and On", but also slightly psychedelic rock'n'roll, jazz and blues. Wonderful band.
 
Thanks for the great topic Sean, I haven't heard all of those bands yet, but a time will come. Tongue
 
 
 
Yup Avalon is slightly folky, but it was never released as the band was alive...
 
 
 
You won't be sorry for most of these folk prog bands are awesome.
 
IMHO, Germany only comes second to England (or UK) and slightly ahead of France in terms of referrences for 70's Folk Prog.
 
Strangely enough, nowadays, theUS make the most interesting folkprog around.
 
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 14 2007 at 13:28
Originally posted by anael anael wrote:

Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:


Ruphus Zuphall is not folk IMHOSmile



Have you heard Weiss Der Teufel?
If not listen to Spanferkel or Freitag...then you decide

A great album! They have folk elements, mostly in "Avalon and On", but also slightly psychedelic rock'n'roll, jazz and blues. Wonderful band.
 
Thanks for the great topic Sean, I haven't heard all of those bands yet, but a time will come. Tongue
 
EDIT: Heh, I had answered here already, but I was probably drunk and I didn't remember, or it*s a fact that Iäm getting senile. From the last post I have found the excellent 1st album of Hölderin's Traum. But I personally didn't like Parzival at all (runs hiding Big%20smile).


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 13 2007 at 07:48
Bump!!!
 
I will update the Emma Myldenberger albums that have gotten a recent re-issue ob Garden Of Delight label.
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^^^^^^^^
 
well this post dates back, but is still applicable.
 
Look how hard this thread has a time to live its own life,>>>> if I had created a thread on Genesis, it would be 5 pages long in two days.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 21 2006 at 08:48
Originally posted by timothy leary timothy leary wrote:

I just read your post in lame threads. I know how it feels to start a thread and people could care less. I have only heard of one band you have mentioned in this thread. I will probably give it a spin today. If not for you mentioning it I would not give it a spin. So what it boils down to is : the more mature listeners are going to pay attention to you rather than somebody coming across negatively. Now please realize by the time I acquaint myself with some of your recommendations this thread will have passed and another stupid thread will have 10 pages of egotistical grunting and nay saying. Appreciate your suggestions.
 
hahahaha, i love these kinds of posts
 
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For those into Hoelderlin's traum, here is the link to the thread I created: Wink

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 19 2006 at 10:07
I have heard these:
 
Carol Of Harvest Really haunting beautiful melodies. The strong emotions draw it towards psych.
Emtidi>> Saat has two long suites, and the analog synth stuff should make this also an interesting pick for those interested of vintage electronic music. Quite hazy stuff, but sincere. Their first album wasn't very good.
 
Edit: POPOL VUH:s "Aguirre" is maybe bit like an Inca version of "Saat", vintage analog keyboard stuff mixed with local folk music in a psychedelic manner? Smile RUFUS ZUPHALL introduced me to German underground music, my favourite bands!


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EXCELLENT NEWSClap
 
 
 
 
Ougenweide's first four albums are about to be re-released, two per albums
Ougenweide/All Die Weil and Ohrenschmauss / Eulenspiegel
 
on the Bear Family  Records label: cat# BCD 16775 AH and BCD 16779 AH
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And the second one is even better:

PARZIVAL BaRock progressive rock album and reviews Prog Folk
(Studio Album, 1973)
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PARZIVAL "BaRock"
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5 stars   With their second (and unfortunately last) album, Parzival is scoring a perfect pair that not even countrywoman Claudia’s would never even reach to that level. The group has expanded to a quintet and even a sextet by now and this clearly let more freedom to Walter Quintus to switch from strings to keys. Again this album is produced by professional giant Conny Plank.

Again oddly enough, the CD album starts with a bonus track (the B-side from same single as on the first album CD version) but clearly the track is not quite as superb even if it has choir in it. The overall feeling of the album is clearly more towards a rockier sound, as experienced on the short Celtic track stories. Lenghty track Black Train reaches more in psych and prog moods and it has some astounding moments reminding you of a cross of ELO and The Trees (yes, that good;-) and finding its end only in chaos. Following Mrs Virgin has singing between family’s Chapman and VDGG’s Hammill. The album’s title is an apt one because the mood is definitely more baroque in here as can be seen by the strange (and slightly gothic but orgiastic) Frank Supper, but another peak is reached with the uncanny Scarlet Horses which contrast starkly with the previous two tracks yet has you begging for it not to end. Awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Unfortunately, the very aptly-titled It’s A Pity, is just that (well not that bad, either but the pun was worth it;-), quickly offset with another superb track Thought, built in its start a bit like Eleanor Rigby, but quickly building into a wild flute jam before suddenly jumping into a slow but delightful Ritournelle and off to a devilishly fast ending: flabbergasting!!!! The lenghty Paradise is yet another outstanding moment and would be THE highlight on almost any other album from some other group, but here it is just another track. When abundance is a problem…. lol

The two bonus demo tracks (this time from 70) compared to the first album’s bonus tracks are much more in phase with the album they are included in, and are of great added value and do almost not have that demo edge.

Overall this second album is not quite as perfect as the debut, but maybe more inventive and certainly just as essential. In its craziness, this might only be topped by Comus, Jan Dukes De Grey and the superb debut of Tea & Symphony’s Asylum For The Musically Insane. Another must in the realm of Folk Prog.

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Parzival is outstanding stuff, absolutely delicious

PARZIVAL Legend progressive rock album and reviews Prog Folk
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PARZIVAL "Legend"
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5 stars   One of the keenest Folk Prog group to come from Germany, Parzival should appeal to most progheads especially those looking into medieval music as a main influence. In this regard, they are to be compared to countrymen Ougenweide (but Parzival sings in English), Malicorne for one side and The Pentangle, Spirogyra or The Trees for the second. Organized around a guitar-bass-drums trio (the bassist being multi- instrumentalist from KB to violin) with an added instruments ranging from the cello, flute to the oboe. Sounds tasty does it not? Ya Betcha!-)

Oddly enough the Cd starts with a bonus track, a non-album single, but a masterstroke that puts you right away in superb joyous mood and the album is in the same mould. Cellos and flute gives a rather medieval feeling to the music, but never really completely indulging in it like Gryphon would, they sound more like ELO’s first superb album also. The 8 Years Later almost instrumental is an incredibly beautiful track where they are soaring away like eagles from us poor mortals. Senseless and a few other tracks have slightly acidic-sounding vocals reminding Sopirogyra’s Martyn Cockerham or Comus’s Wooton, but without having that eerie feel to it. Empty Land is based on Bach’s Matthew’s Passion, but the previous track always had another classical influence I could never place.

Their largely acoustic sound is incredibly contagious and highly joyous (I know I already said this at the start of the review but this must be stressed again here. Their lenghty Groove Inside (you guessed it, based on an improvisation) is never less than interesting but reaches the enthralling stages too especially when they get to a raga section (and even reminding me of Jan Dukes De Grey’s Sun Symphonia), until it ends on a rather pointless and not-so-nice wink to The Beatles’s When I’m 64. But only on this lenghty track doers the mood become …… moody ;-)

Two more short bonus tracks (on top of the opening one) are ending the album in a rougher manner than necessary, both being demos dating from 69 and largely forgettable, this album is one of the real pearls from Germany’s folk scene and the fact that it was produced by Conny Plank, certainly is no coincidence.
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CAROL OF HARVEST Carol of Harvest
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4 stars  —  Stunning sole album from this very recent discovery even among hard-line collectors, this group is now more reputed but it still has loads to achieve in notoriety to achieve the popularity it merits. This quintet recorded what can be considered a masterpiece of progressive Folk Rock in 1978, when the interest for such a record had been on the wane for a while, which might explain the confidentiality of it (it was also pressed to minimum quantity). Looking back, this album probably sounded quite dated in 78, but I assure you that nowadays this music is timeless and absolutely beautiful.

Brainchild of guitarist Axel Schmierer, who wrote all tracks and English lyrics, this album radiates beauty of groups such as The Trees or Hoelderlin’s Traum. Compared to the Trees (most striking comparison) is the beautiful female voice of Beate Krause, but also the large instrument passages which are given even more room than on any tracks of The Trees’s two albums. If some progheads have doubt that all f those folk rock groups from the turn of the 70’s decade are progressive enough to be on the Archives, here you will have absolutely no doubts: if this folk is not prog, than there can be no such thing.

Lenghty opener (16 min) Nightcap is a pure delight wiçth an acoustic guitar emerging from the winds and adopting a melody that will closely resemble one from Roger Waters on The Wall, and the vocals (Sandy Denny anyone?) takes us quickly to a superb ambiance mixed with KB of the era but played divinely slow to fit the music. Just before the 7 min-mark, the track picks up speed but repeats the previous pattern and Schmierer’s soaring solo does you wonders in terms of spine chills before dying out. A sonar tone brings you back to life along with the siren’s chant: you must be Ulysses tied to his mast. The tunes picks up speed once again than calms down to the returning sonar and so on… Second (short) track is much more trad folk and closing a stunning first side.

The second side starts very much in the mould of its predecessor (maybe a bit too much) but slightly less expansive on the instrumental side and Treary Eyes is also in that typical mould between Pentangle and The Trees while the 10 min closer brings back some of the majesty of the first side of the vinyl. Most of the lyrics (perfectly sung in English) are not reaching far or have no deep meaning but still positive and charming.

The three live bonus tracks bring little more to the album (the sound quality is average and the songs are unremarkable but have a space rock sound), but they do not interfere with the overall fluidity of the album as well as its enjoyment. Part of the excitement of this album is to discover a great to superb folk prog album that belongs with the best of the decade but was recorded so late that it went unnoticed and can now be seen as a lost and forgotten gem.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 06 2006 at 03:40
Originally posted by anael anael wrote:

Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:


Ruphus Zuphall is not folk IMHO




Have you heard Weiss Der Teufel?
If not listen to Spanferkel or Freitag...then you decide

I never said that Rufus Zuphall did not have any influences, but overall I would not say that folk was their main inspiration

Weiss Der Teufel is a great album.

Phallobst is one of the worst taste covers ever though with worms out of a pear

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 04 2006 at 15:01
Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:


Ruphus Zuphall is not folk IMHO




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 04 2006 at 13:55

Originally posted by avestin avestin wrote:

Merci pour cette information, Hugues.

 

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Ruphus Zuphall is not folk IMHO

and from the bonus live tracks of their two studio albums's new reissues , they were quite bluesy

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Originally posted by Hesselius Hesselius wrote:

A friend had told me that the meaning was earth & heaven, but i didn't trust
her knolwledge of german, now I see that I was right.

It is quite pausible the reference to the Popol Vuh, because they were
involved in the Mayan myths (at least at the beginning of their career)
I don`t know but could 1 & 7 be metaphors for earth & heaven??
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Merci pour cette information, Hugues.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 04 2006 at 06:27
A friend had told me that the meaning was earth & heaven, but i didn't trust
her knolwledge of german, now I see that I was right.

It is quite pausible the reference to the Popol Vuh, because they were
involved in the Mayan myths (at least at the beginning of their career)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 04 2006 at 06:02
Maybe it refers to some mythological tale. Or perhaps to something out of the "Popol Vuh" ("Popol Vuh" is the name of the holy book of the Mayan civilization).


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 04 2006 at 05:45
Originally posted by Hesselius Hesselius wrote:

It's a little off topic but anyway I'll try.

Any of our German friends out there could translate the Popol Vuh's album
title Einsjäger & Siebenäger.

It means "Onehunter and Sevenhunter". And it doesn't make any more sense in German.


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