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cynthiasmallet
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Topic: Return to Forever vs Brand X Posted: January 10 2008 at 15:14 |
Unorthodox Behaviour by a mile for me, although I have to say I much prefer Masques to either of these.
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Urs Blank
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Posted: January 10 2008 at 13:32 |
Romantic Warrior by far! But UB is a very good album, just that RTF rules for me.
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dwill123
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Posted: January 10 2008 at 13:10 |
Romantic Warrior
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proger
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Posted: January 10 2008 at 12:52 |
Unorthodox Behaviour- do it for me more then RW from some reason....
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crimhead
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Posted: January 10 2008 at 12:51 |
RtF for me. How can you go against a lineup of Corea,Clarke and DiMeola?
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Dick Heath
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Posted: January 10 2008 at 07:21 |
Some truth in this although BX's Percy Jones did take the electric bass guitar crown away from Jaco Pastorius in jazz polls on a couple of occasions in the 70's. Personally I find Romantic Warrior is the easy way into jazz rock fusion (but ultimately is one of the least satifactory - give me Hymn Of The Seventh Galaxy), being one of the closest to straight instrumental prog rock - which may have been RTF's intention. If you want Brand X with excellent musicianship and more of a musical challenge, check out son of Brand X: Tunnels (with Jones - and Goodsall often guesting) e.g. the aptly named Progressivity
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King Crimson776
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Posted: January 09 2008 at 21:15 |
Romantic Warror by far. Brand X aren't masters like Return to Forever.
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Intruder
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Posted: June 12 2006 at 00:13 |
Romantic Warrior is way too over the top for me. I loved the early RTF sound with the bubbling Fender Rhodes, lilting yet peppery horns, percussion all over the place and Flora's melodic voice...didn't matter that she was singing drivel. Warrior is all flash, a clone of hundreds of fusion/prog albums that came before, a definite attempt to crossover to that rock 'n' roll market. To me, it's blindingly shiny and hard on the ears - by far the worst LP RTF produced.
On the other hand, the early Brand X stuff is full of life...organic life. They didn't break any new ground and are by no means as influential - or as talented - as Chick Corea's band, but they sound like they loved what they were doing. I prefer the second Brand X LP to the first, but both make it on my turntable a lot more frequently than Romantic Warrior.
I can't recommend the first two RTF albums enough...I think they're the pinnacle of the jazz fusion genre. The second wave of RTF (with Connors and then DiMeola on guitar) was more expirimental and much more electric, sort of laying over the path set by Mahavishu but still a lot to enjoy and also recommended.
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Legoman
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Posted: June 07 2006 at 01:26 |
Come on! Unorthodox is a masterpiece!
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Erpland316
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Posted: June 07 2006 at 00:27 |
Romantic Warrior- the instrumentation/songwriting on that album is truly amazing!
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BaldFriede
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Posted: June 07 2006 at 00:00 |
I don't like the guitar style of Di Meola, though he certainly knows how to play it. So I'll vote for Brand X.
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Zac M
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Posted: June 06 2006 at 22:13 |
Neither are masterpieces of their respective genre, but I will almost always choose RtF over any Brand X album any day.
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dabaynton
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Posted: June 05 2006 at 14:02 |
Unorthodox behaviour is good, but Moroccan Roll is better.
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Kord
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Posted: June 05 2006 at 11:43 |
Romantic warrior
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JayDee
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Posted: April 03 2006 at 09:25 |
OK, i wont kiss Phil's arse this time Romantic Warrior |
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Moogtron III
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Posted: April 03 2006 at 07:57 |
That's really too close to call.
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grandoleopry
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Posted: April 03 2006 at 07:47 |
Brand X does not have an answer for Al Di Meola. For that reason I'll take RW by a razor's edge...
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Rising Force
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Posted: March 19 2006 at 20:40 |
Romantic Warrior... I've been listening to it all day. The title track is incredible, as are the rest .I haven't heard Brand X though.
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memowakeman
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Posted: March 19 2006 at 18:36 |
Romantic Warrior!!
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NetsNJFan
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Posted: March 18 2006 at 21:31 |
Unorthodox Behaviour, easily for me
Moroccan Roll is better than both! |
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