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Poll Question: Should they be added, and if so how?
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    Posted: May 22 2006 at 09:52
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i dont pretend to know as much about progressive music as, say Mikeenregalia, im a relative new comer to the prog scene. However,  from what i do know these guys in Coheed and Cambria seem to fit the bill for art rock to a tee. i have two of their albums, Good Apollo, and in Keeping Secrets... both of which i enjoyed thoroughly and throuout was consatntly reminded of TMV. it took a while for it to grow on me, much as did pain of salvation, the mars volta and MANY other prog bands. they admittedly dont play strictly prog tho. they mix it instead with a few different styles, mainly punk (i dont get the emo tag) and a little metal heavily influenced by prog. They're a band on the cutting edge of music today. they dont fit into any one genre, they constantly push the envelope, and as one of you said, are no artistic slouches by any means. I believe it would be foolish of such a high quality and well respected archive such as this to blatently ignore a band that millions of people consider prog. At LEAST add them under the tag of prog related (the best nutral postion). Thanks, i sincerely hope the archives consider adding C&C to their extensive collection.
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No, they're emo, not prog. Besides that I refuse to vote for a band that has an album with such a stupid title as "Good Apollo..."
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I've said all I need to say in other threads. This band is prog. I go with Art Rock.
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Of course they are prog/art rock ... these guys takes these styles into the 21 century .. they have great melodies, fancy instrumental parts, cool incomrehensable storys ( just like Jon Andersson) .. and they shure know how to paint pictures with their music ...
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Originally posted by Geck0 Geck0 wrote:

I agree Mike, they're better than My Chemical Romance, Greenday and all those awful bands, they're talented musicians and I think the concept is quite fun, but they're not prog.  The artwork is great too and done by one of the band.  So they're no slouches, I just don't think they're prog, that's all.  I like a few tracks and that's all.

I understand what you're saying ... but prog related essentially means "not prog", doesn't it?
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In my opinion it is music influenced by progressive rock, I should add them by prog related.
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Originally posted by Paulieg Paulieg wrote:

No, I really think they are more emo than anything.  Plus I really don't like them so go figure.

 

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Art rock. Far more progressive than some of the tr0 pr0g bands here...

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I agree Mike, they're better than My Chemical Romance, Greenday and all those awful bands, they're talented musicians and I think the concept is quite fun, but they're not prog.  The artwork is great too and done by one of the band.  So they're no slouches, I just don't think they're prog, that's all.  I like a few tracks and that's all.
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Originally posted by The Wizard The Wizard wrote:

I listened to a few of there songs. They're in the same league as bands like My Chemical Romance  and Falloutboy. Just emo with concept albums. Greenday made a concept album, but I don't see ayone getting them added. Same case with these guys.

The song structures are much more complex than My Chemical Romance ... or Green Day, for that matter.
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I listened to a few of there songs. They're in the same league as bands like My Chemical Romance  and Falloutboy. Just emo with concept albums. Greenday made a concept album, but I don't see ayone getting them added. Same case with these guys.
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I have their recent album Friede and I have to agree, they're not very prog.

Now, The Mystery Jets on the other hand are far more prog to my ears, but I cannot see them being added on here either.

I do appreciate a few of their tracks though, but some are too emo for my ears.  The best track is the final one and that's only because of the Dave Gilmour-esque guitar playing!

My friend claims she likes prog, because she listens to Co&Ca and Rush... hmm, she's very misinformed!
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Points: 10261 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 02 2006 at 12:53
Until someone will provide me with different material than what can be heard on their homepage, I am strongly opposed to the idea of their inclusion. What can be heard there has nothing whatever to do with prog.


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Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

^ The whole Coheed and Cambria discussion just seems a bit ridiculous to me because I keep reading about them in (print) magazines. So why do these magazines discuss the band when they are rejected on this website which claims to be inclusive, but doesn't even accept them as prog related?

It just doesn't make sense for me. Either we are strict, or inclusive.

The point is is that I am not blocking them at all,to be honest I dont really care one way or the other.I am not trying to influence opinion or throw my weight around....

I am just voicing my own opinion which is neither more nor less valid than anyone elses.
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^ The whole Coheed and Cambria discussion just seems a bit ridiculous to me because I keep reading about them in (print) magazines. So why do these magazines discuss the band when they are rejected on this website which claims to be inclusive, but doesn't even accept them as prog related?

It just doesn't make sense for me. Either we are strict, or inclusive.
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Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

Originally posted by Tony R Tony R wrote:

They aren't really related to prog in any way are they?

Just because their albums are conceptual doesnt mean they are Prog,even "-ish"

It's all abit teeny bobberish too!

Uh-oh here we go "man your battle stations........" I feel a backlash-a coming!

Their music is progressive ... I couldn't care less about the conceptuality. I never "bought" that rule of thumb that the longer the songs (or the greater the scale of the concept) the more prog.

Fact is that their compositions exhibit many of the trademarks of prog rock. You don't have to like them (as a matter of fact I really don't like them), but you have to try to separate the assessment of their progressiveness from how you would rate their albums. Or do the archives only accept "good" bands?

Well,I quite like them,some songs are quite catchy in a trashy kind of way.But I dont believe they are prog-related.

I take your very good point about accepting only "good" bnds though Mike,personal taste should not get in the way of the assessment process.
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