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andu 
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Posted: February 13 2007 at 07:35 |
This matter has already been discussed.
There has not been any change to what&why is considered prog. The site just started acknowledging the sorroundings of prog. Prog is not a flower grown in the dester, you know...
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The T
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Posted: February 12 2007 at 23:56 |
But then you couldn't keep on refusing to include Amorphis, you b*****ds!  
No, seriously, don't change the name, for you would also change the game. (man am I lame today!)
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rileydog22
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Posted: February 12 2007 at 22:19 |
 Cygnus X-2 wrote:
Correction, it's not sh*t Archives.
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Cygnus X-2
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Posted: February 12 2007 at 21:09 |
Correction, it's not sh*t Archives.
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moreitsythanyou
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Posted: February 12 2007 at 21:08 |
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stonebeard
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Posted: February 12 2007 at 21:04 |
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Preposterous.
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Chris H
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Posted: February 12 2007 at 20:55 |
If it was rock archives, that would mean Green Day would have to be included 
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Spacemac
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Posted: February 12 2007 at 20:54 |
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ProgArchives.com is better
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Chris H
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Posted: January 25 2007 at 15:58 |
I think it's treason!
Instead of changing the name to make bands like Zep and Maiden and Purple fit in, why not just remove them?
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Vompatti
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Posted: January 25 2007 at 15:52 |
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Why not change the name to Archives? That way we could include everything!
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The T
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Posted: January 25 2007 at 15:47 |
Easy Livin wrote:
If we became RockArchives, presumably we'd then have "Rock related" and "Proto rock" categories, to gather in every other piece of music ever made![IMG]height=17 alt=LOL src="http://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif" width=17 align=absMiddle> |
Proto-rock? As Atavachron said, music made in caves. But rock-related? Man! That would force us to include here Timberlake, Aguilera, Spears. Many of their songs are just rock songs made poppier!
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Atavachron
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Posted: January 25 2007 at 03:43 |
^  Exactly... we'd be looking at cave music made with sticks and stones
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Easy Livin
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Posted: January 25 2007 at 03:37 |
If we became RockArchives, presumably we'd then have "Rock related" and "Proto rock" categories, to gather in every other piece of music ever made!
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The Whistler
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Posted: January 25 2007 at 03:25 |
And J.S. Bach!
Seriously, I think we should admit Bach. He was pretty sweet.
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Atavachron
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Posted: January 25 2007 at 03:23 |
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ProgMusic is indeed a decent name, but that would lead us into such deep waters I don't know if it would work. If it is decided that the site should *become* a general progressive music website than maybe, but if that happened, it would include everything from Bartok to Louis Armstrong to the Beach Boys.
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laplace
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Posted: January 25 2007 at 03:20 |
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I initially assumed that this thread was started as a sarcastic way of highlighting the site's dubious direction but the way you're all responding in no irony makes me think that it was sincere.
and that scares me
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video vertigo
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Posted: January 25 2007 at 03:17 |
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I have no problem with Prog-related being here but most of the bands that are prog-related I have no idea how the conclusion was made
I believe many were added because Prog fans mainly enjoy a band so they concluded that good music must clearly be related somehow to prog which doesn't make sense.
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"The rock and roll business is pretty absurd, but the world of serious music is much worse." - Zappa
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Jim Garten
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Posted: January 25 2007 at 03:15 |
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This is a similar question to one raised on quite a few occasions by one of the oldest members of this forum, and I'm against it for pretty much the same reasons as cited above by The T.
By keeping Progarchives, the potentially immense database is kept in check by the prefix "prog"; if this were to be removed, the whole feel of the archive would change and it would become just another music database. Sure, the feel of the archive has changed in the last three years, but it is still the best place to come if you like your rock that little bit 'different', and if you are a prog rock fan, you're guaranteed to find some obscure gem here you wouldn't have known about otherwise (not to mention someone to chat about it with).
Another argument is that by keeping "prog" in the title, it could be said it prevents the Forum being flooded with the kind of people who make some punk & metal forums so unpleasant.
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The T
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Posted: January 24 2007 at 19:23 |
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Imagine having the site named RockArchives... that would mean here we cover ALL rock? The same problems we usually have ("does X belong in PA? Is Y prog enough? What are prog genres? Does Z belong to this or that genre"?) only MULTIPLIED BY TEN.... And we would have to include bands like the rolling stones, u2, depeche mode, and MILLION others.... not that I don't like them, but those are not prog, but they would have ALL THE RIGHT to be included because they actually PLAY ROCK, and if the site's name is rock archives....tsk tsk tsk
But that's not the main reason. I guess the owner and creator wanted a PROG website, and we have a beautiful prog database... so all the fairer that the site's name reflects the spirit it carries.
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glass house
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Posted: January 24 2007 at 17:52 |
Sure there are additions I don't agree with but I still find some really good prog whether it is old or new.
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