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Phil
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Topic: Si On Avait Besoin D'une 5ième Saison- hard one Posted: March 03 2007 at 17:38 |
Only heard this album for the first time a couple of years bakc, as it was raved about by many on this site, including Sean trane...it's brilliant, and it's rare nowadays that I come across 5 star music that I haven't heard before.
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Bern
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Posted: March 03 2007 at 15:05 |
I love the first Harmonium record a lot. It is indeed the most popular here in Québec. It's basically poppier so it appeals to most people. Almost all songs on it were major hits in Québec in the seventies. On top of that, the closing section of Un Musicien Parmis tant d'autres is almost seen as the second Québécois anthem. As much as I like their debut, the only thing that saddens me is that their two others don't get nearly as much attention. Ironically, when you ask someone who lived in the seventies what is the best Harmonium album, he almost always answers L'Heptade. L'Heptade is often seen as Fiori's masterpiece here but it doesn't get played. I guess most people like the simpler folk rock songs from the debut. Anyways, I hope that answers your question. |
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Posted: March 02 2007 at 23:36 |
I wonder if y'all were Quebecois, or Canadien, whether Harmonium's first might overwhelm you ? The next two studio efforts were well received, but checking people's collections over the years leads me to believe that the first was best loved. Of course, the language barrier might make the difference, plus the fact that the first one was more acoustic guitar & folk oriented.
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OGTL
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Posted: March 02 2007 at 18:18 |
Absolutely The 5th, but "Dixie" is one of the most well rounded, cohesive and excellent tracks of all times.
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guitar_ode
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Posted: February 25 2007 at 11:54 |
Yeah, I think so too. The link is really more explicit than the lyrics. There are two possible interpretations:
- The guy knew a member or a close relation of someone in the band, or he got the privilege to learn about the album by someone that was well-informed
- The guy just gave by his own a sense to the lyrics that is not really verifiable and maybe not authentic.
Maybe the concept IS what he explains. This concept could have been the idea that germinated in the mind of the band members, but they didn't wanted to put all cards on table. So, the results we can see of all that is the existing album which is not explicit...
Anyway, we can certainly affirm that that this awesome album is based on the change of seasons Edited by guitar_ode - February 25 2007 at 11:56 |
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~ L'ordre est le plaisir de la raison, mais le désordre est le délice de l'imagination ~
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Baza
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Posted: February 25 2007 at 10:47 |
Thanks for the translation, but I can't find a lot of resemblance between Bern's link and the translation... I guess that the guy who wrote the review at the link has some extra information, because most of the stuff he wrote can't be understood from the lyrics.
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Bern
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Posted: February 25 2007 at 00:53 |
You're welcome but thanks Josiane for doing the real big job. |
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video vertigo
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Posted: February 25 2007 at 00:49 |
Best thread ever guys, thanks for the translation and the link.
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"The rock and roll business is pretty absurd, but the world of serious music is much worse." - Zappa
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guitar_ode
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Posted: February 24 2007 at 14:59 |
I'm happy it helps!
Ah, the link is really interesting! I didn't know all of that. It gives a great explanation of the concept!
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Bern
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Posted: February 24 2007 at 14:41 |
Good work Josiane.
I was thinking of doing that the other day but my lazyness won... Some of this is pretty hard to translate and doesn't really mean something in english but anyway, it's a pretty good job. If you want to understand the concept, click the link I posted earlier. Bravo! |
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chamberry
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Posted: February 24 2007 at 14:35 |
Wow! Thanks, guitar_ode!! It's all so clear now...
I know very little French and it was still very hard for me to understand the lyrics. |
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guitar_ode
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Posted: February 24 2007 at 14:21 |
That's it!
Hope it's not so much wrong!
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guitar_ode
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Posted: February 24 2007 at 14:19 |
En pleine face Face Forward Another turned corner It’s unfortunate for this day Melt your ice or then, move Melt your ice It’s me who has fallen face forward What do I have to do? Nothing to give to myself No more sounds to give Melt your ice or then, move Melt your ice It’s me who has fallen face forward What do I have to do? Like an old lady that has lost her charm I come to you, I come to you Like an old lady that has lost her charm I come to you, come to you, come to you Give a sign From where you are I’m not hearing you anymore Where are you, I can’t bear it I’m not hearing you anymore Where are you? Where are you, I can’t bear it I’m not hearing you anymore Where are you? Edited by guitar_ode - February 24 2007 at 14:19 |
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guitar_ode
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Posted: February 24 2007 at 14:18 |
Depuis l'automne Since the Fall A song for here A song to say to us that we have grow cold A song as a souvenir Of the time we wanted to kill A chord that gives us What we’re expecting from the fall When there’s nothing left to nobody A song just for you Only to say to you: Hurry up A song to hate myself Because I’ve anything else to say Anything else to say to the fall When it would be time to quiver Because there’s nothing left to nobody We wanted to sing in the street To be less lost But it’s the street that we lost A song around here We need one these days A song to remember Like we hold our desires The song shall be good If we want to cross the fall Without anybody misses something A song from a party That isn’t no more a part of here A song to leave Far away from the big wax museum I’m sorry to break your fun But I’m looking for an autumn rime That rimes to nothing neither anybody Sine I know my land is to me The other’s living death Hey calvary, we will bury us If it’s a dream, then, wake me up It will be all, it will not be long Stay here, because it’s coming |
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guitar_ode
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Posted: February 24 2007 at 14:18 |
Dixie Dixie Tell me what’s your song That comes back to my ears all the time You know, I don’t have so much time as before No more time as I had To fill my ears Tell me what’s your song That comes back as a sun all the time When he comes, it’s never for a long time, nananan For a long time from time to time To warm up my ears Hey, you, do the same Take off your fingers from inside your ears Hey, you, do the same |
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~ L'ordre est le plaisir de la raison, mais le désordre est le délice de l'imagination ~
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guitar_ode
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Posted: February 24 2007 at 14:17 |
I just translated the songs of "Si On Avait Besoin d'une 5ième Saison". I tried to do my best, but there could be some errors. There are some sentences that are difficult to understand because there're figurative and there are some play on words that simply don't exist in English. Anyway, the meaning of the translated sentences is near to the original signification. Thought it would gives an idea to those who wanted to understand the Harmonium lyrics.
Si On Avait Besoin d’une 5ième Saison
Vert Green
Green, yellow, and red, and blue I’ve the sun in the eyes Before to say your farewells to us I don’t know wich one of both of us Will look-down I just started to fall Before to go he will show his colors Like he would have been afraid He left to turn red somewhere else Gray around, and black far away The forest meets me Similarly as a magic act Forest holds me I just starded to fall Before to go I need to invent other colors It’s like if I was afraid To find me elsewhere To forgot you an entire year A year to forgot you Even folly’s losing his reason But I want to make it up Tumble, Tumble... To find myself in the blend |
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~ L'ordre est le plaisir de la raison, mais le désordre est le délice de l'imagination ~
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Mlaen
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Posted: February 23 2007 at 14:04 |
Histoires sans paroles - one of the best songs ever recorded on one of the best albums ever recorded.
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moreitsythanyou
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Posted: February 19 2007 at 13:55 |
I honestly can't choose. I'll go with Vert because I think it has less votes than it deserves
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Bern
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Posted: February 19 2007 at 13:46 |
I do understand the lyrics and the whole thing is beautiful.
Here is a website that explains the concept : http://www.geocities.com/simonlacvault/harmonium.html |
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RIP in bossa nova heaven. |
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Sean Trane
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Posted: February 19 2007 at 07:08 |
Except for Dixie, all of them are excellent. I went for Automne.
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let's just stay above the moral melee
prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
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