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Poll Question: Which is the best song ?
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Direct Link To This Post Topic: SG "First Light" vs DT "A Change of Seasons"
    Posted: February 22 2007 at 22:19
Originally posted by Masque Masque wrote:

Originally posted by el böthy el böthy wrote:

Originally posted by Masque Masque wrote:

Originally posted by el böthy el böthy wrote:

Im surprised A change of season isnt beating the crap out of the first light, as its not only one of DT best, but quite possibly THE prog metal epic, definitly the most important one, while the first light is...well...Shadow Gallery isnt my thing, and I dont want to bash them, so I will end here...


Shadow Gallery sucks!


oh boy...you just could not control yourself!!!Embarrassed
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 22 2007 at 09:15
ACOS received 86% of the votes ... that doesn't mean that it's much, much better than First Light. It just means that 86& of all voters think that it's the better epic - we don't know "how much" better.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 22 2007 at 08:53
Hate to sound like bad sport but I`m not entirely pleased with the way this poll has turned out , not so much the result of the poll ... that's fine .. just the way we  conduct our points of views they are always so black and white and focus on whats wrong hardly ever what is right , are all us Prog fans so pompous ?  I hope not  Stern%20Smile 



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 21 2007 at 16:51
yes but didn't I say that ACOS was MARGINALLY BETTER, thus implying that I prefer it over FL??? I even voted for it. So i can't see how my post was illogical. Anyway...enough with this...Wink
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 21 2007 at 14:44
Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

In a poll like this posts like "both suck" are a bit off topic, that's all. You're free to post your opinion, but then please return the favor and accept if some other users post something like "your post sucks".

LOL Sorry, this was even more off-topic!
 
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if the poll is "what do you think of X and Y?", then the answer "X and Y suck" is valid.
 
If the poll is "X vs Y", "X and Y suck" it's not part of any possible logical answer.
 
And every post but mine absolutely sucks... Big%20smile


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 21 2007 at 11:10
A Change Of Seasons
A Change Of Seasons
A Change Of Seasons
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A Change Of Seasons
A Change Of Seasons
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1 Sing to the LORD a new song;
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 21 2007 at 10:38
In a poll like this posts like "both suck" are a bit off topic, that's all. You're free to post your opinion, but then please return the favor and accept if some other users post something like "your post sucks".

LOL Sorry, this was even more off-topic!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 21 2007 at 09:32
Originally posted by Masque Masque wrote:

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Well, they both suck but at least ACOS is marginaly better, (it not being a GIANT ballad and all...)
  life changing post !   gonna print that out and frame it    Stern%20Smile



well, it's my opinion... what's wrong with saying it? this is a music site, we can disagree about music... spare me the "negative posts are not constructive" stuff....
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 21 2007 at 09:17
gotta go with ACOS on that one, although I LOVE SG...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 21 2007 at 09:09
Originally posted by theBox theBox wrote:

Well, they both suck but at least ACOS is marginaly better, (it not being a GIANT ballad and all...)
  life changing post !   gonna print that out and frame it    Stern%20Smile


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 21 2007 at 09:08
Originally posted by E-Dub E-Dub wrote:

Originally posted by Masque Masque wrote:


Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

NO COMPARISON..... "First Light" is incoherent and the stupid 10 minute silence really pisses me offAngry... in my review of LEGACY I make my point clear, this song doesn't hold a candle to ACOS.... It's repetitive, with no structure, and it just makes me angry to read in the back of the cd case "32 minutes"... then you put the cd and at around minute 20something it ends, and starts again like 7 minutes later... atrocious way of boring a listener of an otherwise great album (in this case, the epic song ruins the album instead of saving it)...
Yeah Marillion played that same trick with :this strange engine"  Tongue


I can't vote as I've never heard Shadow Gallery's entry; however, don't pin the extra minutes of 'nothingness' on Marillion alone. I've heard other bands do the exact same thing over and over. Sometimes it goes on and on and simply ends. I actually find the studio fun that was recorded on TSE to be amusing.

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It might be fun but you have to wait 15 minutes for it, Pendulus Skin on Mastodons Blood Mountain is the same, though in that case the songs only 5 minutes anyway.

I really hate long pieces of silence.Angry
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 21 2007 at 07:11
Well, they both suck but at least ACOS is marginaly better, (it not being a GIANT ballad and all...)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 21 2007 at 04:54
I like First Light a lot, and the long period of silence doesn't annoy me too much ... it's the parts before/after the silence which are a little bit bland and unnecessarily drawn out too long. ACOS has a clear structure and concept from beginning to end, which makes it a much better epic.

But first 18 minutes of First Light are very, very good!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 21 2007 at 04:32
I love "First Light" but, as previously mentioned, any long periods of silence are unbelievably annoying. Why anyone would think a listener could find it anything but irksome is a constant mystery to me.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 21 2007 at 01:36

I haven't heard FL but ACOS is my favorite ever

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 21 2007 at 01:03
I made a best of Shadow Gallery CD  using audacity ,  I cut out the end bit on  First Light  at about the 22 min mark  ... When I listened to it back I came to realise what a gem of a prog metal song it is , so much so I consider it an even  finer piece than "A change of seasons"

For me First Light is of a higher consciousness than A change of seasons, it gave me some serious food for thought lyrically on a universal level (listen to its lyrics) , but that's just my opinion .

So I put it to a poll .... knowing SG were gonna get creamed  ... I advise listen to first light again    .. in the dark    ... alone ...  no interruptions,    if you don`t musically transcend   from it you are not listening to it properly or  your tastes are vastly different to mine which is weird since I love "A Change of seasons" as well    Tongue




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 20 2007 at 23:52
Originally posted by Masque Masque wrote:


Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

NO COMPARISON..... "First Light" is incoherent and the stupid 10 minute silence really pisses me offAngry... in my review of LEGACY I make my point clear, this song doesn't hold a candle to ACOS.... It's repetitive, with no structure, and it just makes me angry to read in the back of the cd case "32 minutes"... then you put the cd and at around minute 20something it ends, and starts again like 7 minutes later... atrocious way of boring a listener of an otherwise great album (in this case, the epic song ruins the album instead of saving it)...
Yeah Marillion played that same trick with :this strange engine"  Tongue


I can't vote as I've never heard Shadow Gallery's entry; however, don't pin the extra minutes of 'nothingness' on Marillion alone. I've heard other bands do the exact same thing over and over. Sometimes it goes on and on and simply ends. I actually find the studio fun that was recorded on TSE to be amusing.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 20 2007 at 23:16
Originally posted by el böthy el böthy wrote:

Originally posted by Masque Masque wrote:

Originally posted by el böthy el böthy wrote:

Im surprised A change of season isnt beating the crap out of the first light, as its not only one of DT best, but quite possibly THE prog metal epic, definitly the most important one, while the first light is...well...Shadow Gallery isnt my thing, and I dont want to bash them, so I will end here...


Shadow Gallery sucks!


oh boy...you just could not control yourself!!!Embarrassed
I enjoy Shadow Gallery Smile

...why?LOLLOLLOLLOLLOL
probably because they are influenced by some of my favorite bands  and I really like mike bakers voice Smile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 20 2007 at 23:14
A Change Of Seasons but I like both.
 
I don't really understand why people get so upset about the silence in First Light.  Although, technically its not silence, its people talking followed by knocking and doorbells and then a mediocre neo classical piece. 
I admit I don't care for this part but I usually just end the album there or fast forward to the classical peice at the end, its not a big deal.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 20 2007 at 22:45
Originally posted by Masque Masque wrote:

Originally posted by el böthy el böthy wrote:

Im surprised A change of season isnt beating the crap out of the first light, as its not only one of DT best, but quite possibly THE prog metal epic, definitly the most important one, while the first light is...well...Shadow Gallery isnt my thing, and I dont want to bash them, so I will end here...


Shadow Gallery sucks!


oh boy...you just could not control yourself!!!Embarrassed
I enjoy Shadow Gallery Smile

...why?LOLLOLLOLLOLLOL
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