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aapatsos
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Topic: Fleetwood mac Posted: October 28 2007 at 22:54 |
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Rumours is a very good album
I don't know much about them, got a couple of albums but Rumours is the one I really enjoy, although 'poppy' |
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MonkeyphoneAlex
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Posted: October 28 2007 at 20:55 | ||
I can't stand them. Mainly because they never impress me. I've never heard a fleetwood mac song and been like "hey, what a clever chord change" or "what a neat little melody". They're just boring and not very talented.
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jammun
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Posted: October 28 2007 at 20:26 | ||
What's amazing about Fleetwood Mac was their ability to adapt. I mean, there were a few times when the band consisted of no more than Fleetwood and Mac!
Don't know if it's still available, but The Chain has a decent representation of all eras of the band. Myself, I'd recommend the following, in order:
Then Play On
Kiln House
Rumours
Tusk
Then if you like what you hear, explore the albums before Then Play On (Peter Green era), the albums after Kiln House (Bob Welch era, including Heroes Are Hard To Find) and the initial FM album with Buckingham/Nicks -- which includes the fantastic Blue Letter -- and then at your own risk the stuff after Tusk.
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Trotsky
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Posted: October 28 2007 at 10:16 | ||
I'm not familiar at all with the Welch era and I grew up and thoroughly enjoyed Buckingham Nicks (particularly Rumours and the comeback album Tango In The Night), but right now I'm going through a "Peter Green is God" phase. The Jeremy Spencer covers have their moments, and Danny Kirwan is a sadly under-rated songwriter, but it is Peter Green who simply oozes talent. Whether it's classic stuff like Black Magic Woman, Albatross and the sublime cover of I Need Your Love So Bad, or the epic Oh Well, later hits like Green Manalishi, or lesser-known but equally brilliant tunes like Rattlesnake Shake and Love That Burns (the guitar solo melts me) this era of the band was magnificent. I'd suggest starting with Then Play On or a compilation ... bear in mind, even though Green-era Mac had just a handful of albums, there were many non-album singles spread over different labels, so it's hard to get hold of an ideal compile. |
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Zargus
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Posted: September 26 2007 at 20:42 | ||
I find rumors my only FM album realy lame its way to soft no action no dynamics yust simple boring soft rock made for radio play. 1 good song "Dreams" the rest i can live without.
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Dick Heath
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Posted: September 26 2007 at 08:36 | ||
If you can afford it (money-wise and time wise) or find it on sale, the Complete Blue Horizon Sessions is a gold mine of early Peter Green's Fleetwood Mac blues -(including the Chicago/Chess recordings - and the outtakes show Peter Green was in full charge; (IMHO, the Splinter Group is a sad shadow of this period). The "Complete" label on this boxset is admittedly a misnomer, since PGFM occasionally acted as the house band for visiting American blues artists, e.g. Otis Spann, not included here.
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Sean Trane
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Posted: September 26 2007 at 08:15 | ||
I recently re-listened to Rumours (following Classic Rock's latest issue with a story on it) and found three good songs. Slick FM rock, bound to please the majority.
The rest is vacuous at best. The following Tusk and the previous S/T were no better, imho. Christine McVie was my fave of the five.
*I don't mind Nick's voice and looks, but I always preferred Chris McVie, both vocally and looks-wise. Never got into the period between Green's departure and Nicks' arrival. >> Heard a few albums, but was never transported by anu of them. And they lack the good songs of the later years!!
Peter Green's Fleetwood Mac is easily their best period, but outside the outstanding Then Play On and the At Chicago (straight electric blues album), they are a band of singles as well. So I have a compilation of their stuff and the two albums I mentioned, I have no other FM album
Edited by Sean Trane - September 26 2007 at 08:16 |
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Atavachron
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Posted: September 26 2007 at 01:46 | ||
hmm... thems is fightin' words, but I'm too smart to take the bait, nice try
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Thyme Traveler
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Posted: September 26 2007 at 01:44 | ||
Nothing personal against Stevie Nicks or those who like her voice.
I have nothing against either chalkboards or your fingernails... I just know if put one next to the other, you're about to do something which annoys the piss out of me.
Stevie Nicks should've never been near a mic. She was hot in her younger years. Should've just given her a tambourine and dressed her in a bikini.
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Atavachron
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Posted: September 26 2007 at 01:21 | ||
Rumours is probably too treasured, and doesn't quite hold up after years of listenings... but don't mess with Stevie, she's the best and her solo stuff (especially that last record) is terrific pop
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Posted: September 26 2007 at 01:08 | ||
^ wow.. when you want to be in the minority... you don't screw around do you
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Thyme Traveler
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Posted: September 26 2007 at 01:05 | ||
Allow me to be in the minority:
I always found Fleetwood Mac and especially Rumours to be vastly overated. I've heard people in this forum comment that Geddy Lee's vocals keeps them from liking Rush. The same thing has been said about Hammill and VDGG and even Anderson & Yes or even PG and Genesis- I think all those vocalists are distinctive and not at all annoying.
But Stevie Nicks ruins Fleetwood Mac. I can tolerate a Christie McVie song- even though I never thought anyone in FM could write good melody. Stevie Nicks ? She sounds like a goat.
OK. I've said it and am ready for the backlash. But that's just one man's opinion.
Pre-Buckingham/Nicks FM was OK, and Peter Green's FM was good, though.
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Dick Heath
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Posted: September 24 2007 at 08:56 | ||
The original name was a mouthful: Peter Green's Fleetwood Mac
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Finnforest
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Posted: September 23 2007 at 20:24 | ||
Yeah, Mac is a band that people like to deride like the Eagles for being too commercial, but you just can't argue with raw talent and songwriting. Both groups have both in huge quantity. Buckingham is a genius in the studio as were Henley and Frey at crafting amazing pop songs. I don't play them much anymore but the quality and talent are hard to deny.
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The Doctor
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Posted: September 23 2007 at 20:10 | ||
Yes, get the first one with Buckingham Nicks first, then I would suggest, if you haven't heard it yet, get the album Future Games (which precedes Buckingham and Nicks) and then get Say You Will (which sadly lacks any writing or lead vocal work from Christine, but is otherwise a very strong album). Mirage is also decent. As are Bare Trees, Kiln House and Mystery to Me (all three pre-Buckingham/Nicks).
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Evans
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Posted: September 23 2007 at 20:06 | ||
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The Doctor
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Posted: September 23 2007 at 19:49 | ||
What did you think of Say You Will? I loved the album, but wished that Christine had a more prominent role than just a few background vocals.
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Ivan_Melgar_M
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Posted: September 23 2007 at 19:41 | ||
I haven't heard too much of the Bob Welch years to give an opinion, but the little I heard didn't caught my attention.
Anyway, don't care if it's commercial, Pop or whatever, I like Buckingham & Nicks much more than the rest.
Iván Edited by Ivan_Melgar_M - September 23 2007 at 19:42 |
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Evans
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Posted: September 23 2007 at 19:41 | ||
I am actually starting to believe that Rumours is my favourite album of all.. in tront of both First Utterance AND Still Life.. But i'm not completely sure.
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Evans
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Posted: September 23 2007 at 19:38 | ||
Seriously, i'm starting to think that Tusk hasn't got too much filler either.. too bad that, while i found "tell me lies" was a great song and gave me some very high expectations for even the 80's output of the band, the last part of "Tango in the night" completely trashed that dream, and it seems that not even the Mac will be totally free from really lousy songs. |
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