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Bilek ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: July 05 2005 Location: Turkey Status: Offline Points: 1484 |
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Again, I don't recall much of their music, and I remind once more that I have no vote in this respect... (unless the band is considered for Psyche/Space discography, which is clearly out of the question
![]() The line-up is strong enough, but pretending to be "devil's advocate", I'll just mention one analogy: if we rely on the logic that "musicians who played in prog bands must be included in prog-related", we'll end up bringing in names such as Todd Rundgren, or worse, Phil Collins ![]() ![]() Notwithstanding my counter-analogy above, I do believe that Karthago must be evaluated on its own merits, to see if they could fit into any prog genre or related based on these merits. These days I'll give a listen to the aforementioned albums, if I can... (in the end, Philippe is much more competent & authoritative than I am to give the final decision, and I guess he already knows Karthago) P.S. Epitaph's inclusion should seriously be considered, though... or should I write a query to the heavy prog team ![]() |
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Listen to Turkish psych/prog; you won't regret:
Baris Manco,Erkin Koray,Cem Karaca,Mogollar,3 Hürel,Selda,Edip Akbayram,Fikret Kizilok,Ersen (and Dadaslar) (but stick with the '70's, and 'early 80's!) |
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BaldFriede ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: June 02 2005 Location: Germany Status: Offline Points: 10266 |
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I admit they would better fit under "prog-related". but I think they definitely belong there. or isn't the fact that three well known prog musicians played in it enough to create a "relation"? |
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Bilek ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: July 05 2005 Location: Turkey Status: Offline Points: 1484 |
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I listened to some of their albums a couple of years ago; but they hadn't sounded much prog (let alone "kraut") to me back then... Honestly, I think Epitaph deserves a better place in kraut discography (among the names mentioned in the biography above, of course, excluding the bands which are already rightfully here
![]() I might give another listen these days, but then, I'm not even a member of kraut team, thus have no vote in this respect ![]() Happy new year everyone |
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Listen to Turkish psych/prog; you won't regret:
Baris Manco,Erkin Koray,Cem Karaca,Mogollar,3 Hürel,Selda,Edip Akbayram,Fikret Kizilok,Ersen (and Dadaslar) (but stick with the '70's, and 'early 80's!) |
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BaldFriede ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: June 02 2005 Location: Germany Status: Offline Points: 10266 |
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I suggest the band Karthago. With Ingo Bischof on keyboards (Kraan, Guru Guru) and Gerald Luciano Hartwig (Embryo, Guru Guru, the band of Roman Bunka) and later Glenn Cornick (Jethro Tull) on bass they have at least three established prog musicians in their line-up. Here some information about them:
Karthago
Karthago were founded in Berlin by Joey Albrecht (guitar, vocals, originally
from Hannover) and Gerald Luciano Hartwig
More Santana-esque instrumental work was present on "Second Step",
recorded at Windrose Dumont Time, Hamburg, May 1973, with C. & M. Hudalla
producing. This was much more of a joint group effort, balanced between jazzy
keyboards, heavy guitars and South American rhythms. Most of the material
was great, but Ingo Bischof's compositions were a bit out of place - his
songs were almost singer-songwriter type of ballads! Original drummer W.
Brock had left for The Rattles in February 1973 and was replaced by
Norbert 'Panzer' Lehmann on this album. Then within months Lehmann departed
to the heavy progressive band Epitaph. Into
Karthago
Albums: Karthago 1971 BASF 20 21118-5Some information about their albums: Karthago (1971) Joey Albrecht - guitar, vocals Ingo Bischof - keyboards Gerald Luciano Hartwig - bass Wolfgang Brock - drums Thomas Goldschmidt - percussion ![]()
Second Step (1973) Joey Albrecht - guitar, vocals Ingo Bischof - keyboards Gerald Luciano Hartwig - bass Wolfgang Brock - drums Thomas Goldschmidt - percussion ![]()
More information to follow.
Edited by BaldFriede - January 01 2008 at 07:38 |
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