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moreitsythanyou 
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Posted: February 09 2008 at 14:31 |
 stonebeard wrote:
I wish the artwork on the inside of the booklet was better and more like the cover and back. 
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Another good point. The inside artwork is terrible.
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moreitsythanyou
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Posted: February 09 2008 at 14:28 |
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The third option sums it up for me. It's not bad, but not up to TMV standards set by the past three albums. It's certainly their weakest but still pretty good.
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Posted: February 09 2008 at 14:21 |
After about 4-5 listens to it now, I think Bedlam is easily going to be one of the best '08 albums and may very well be TMV's best album so far (except for Deloused of course). 
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Posted: February 09 2008 at 08:14 |
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While the first/second listen, I thought it was bizarre and had potential, I just don't like it now at all with the exception of Goliath, Soothsayer and the opener.
However, I went back to their debut and found them much more listenable now and Eriatarka might be my favorite song of theirs. The choruses in that song are incredibly catchy and complex (especially the drumming) and I love how the last chorus is smoother and in 4/4 in a subtle way.
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Posted: February 09 2008 at 05:02 |
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D'oh! Disregard any names mentioned and replace with "the vocalist"...
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: February 09 2008 at 04:00 |
Avantgardehead wrote:
Ugh, I hated it!!! Especially that nasally, sneery, middle-tone voice that Omar seemed to always use. And the music seemed much, much more bland and sterile than the previous ones. Major thumbs down from me. 
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AFAIK Omar doesn't sing ... he's the guitarist and songwriter/mastermind.
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Posted: February 09 2008 at 03:15 |
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I listened to alot of it, it's their best by far. I almost enjoyed some of the song Goliath.
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Posted: February 09 2008 at 00:35 |
Ugh, I hated it!!! Especially that nasally, sneery, middle-tone voice that the one guy seemed to always use. And the music seemed much, much more bland and sterile than the previous ones. Major thumbs down from me.
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Philéas
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Posted: February 07 2008 at 12:14 |
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Bland.
Voted not so good.
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Posted: February 05 2008 at 09:07 |
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bedlam is my first mars volta album and i'm quite impressed. really cool band
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enigma
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Posted: February 04 2008 at 16:20 |
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but Cavalettas is just a dire waste of 10 minutes IMO
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Having just said that, I am listening to it now, and it sounds much better ! Damn this album, the songs keep changing with each spin, more so than the other albums. I'll stick with my first comment (after all the thread is titled "First Impression"), but I think this CD will take a while to reveal all it's treasure.
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Posted: February 04 2008 at 16:10 |
Some songs are great  but Cavalettas is just a dire waste of 10 minutes IMO
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Posted: February 04 2008 at 03:01 |
Zitro wrote:
De-Loused in the Comatorium: 2.5 stars
Frances the Mute: 2 stars
Amputechture: 3.5 to 4.0 stars
Bedlam in Goliath: 1.5 to 2 stars
from Free-napster. I'm not going to buy this album. It sounds like a bad parody of Amp. 
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I saw it as an attempt to fix amputechture. It's in the same style, but doesn't feature Amp's biggest flaw.. the endless noodling and the dragging out of songs.
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Posted: February 03 2008 at 21:03 |
Awfull. Although it is my first TMV venture, so I may be jumping to conclusions too quickly, but yeah . . . pretty horrible as far as I'm concerned for now.
I'm planning on listening to it again before I confirm it, though, Could end up liking it.
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Zitro
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Posted: February 03 2008 at 10:49 |
De-Loused in the Comatorium: 2.5 stars Frances the Mute: 2 stars Amputechture: 3.5 to 4.0 stars Bedlam in Goliath: 1.5 to 2 stars from Free-napster. I'm not going to buy this album. It sounds like a bad parody of Amp.
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Posted: February 01 2008 at 19:31 |
I finally listened to it (twice), and it actually exceeded my expectations  . The "magic" of de-loused isn't there, but it's still an excellent album. I'd almost go so far as to say it could be the best of '08, but this really does look like a promising year.
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Posted: January 31 2008 at 02:47 |
stonebeard wrote:
In the grand scheme of things....
De-Loused in the Comatorium: 4/5
Frances the Mute: 3/5
Amputechture: never listened to it all (approx. 1.5/5)
Bedlam in Goliath: 3/5
Mars Volta as a whole may be a progressive concept, but they have a definite formula, that's only slightly altered. They knew how to ebb and flow and let silence and down-time do wonders on De-Loused. Amputechture and Bedlam are basically punches in the face. Good for what they are, but not versatile, or wholly enjoyable. It's a niche album from a niche band.
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It's not so bad.. it's better that they've found their own unique niche and stick to it, rather than trying to fit the niche of 385 bands who have done the same thing before them, which I find many other (of course not all) modern bands doing.
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Posted: January 31 2008 at 00:33 |
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In the grand scheme of things....
De-Loused in the Comatorium: 4/5
Frances the Mute: 3/5
Amputechture: never listened to it all (approx. 1.5/5)
Bedlam in Goliath: 3/5
Mars Volta as a whole may be a progressive concept, but they have a definite formula, that's only slightly altered. They knew how to ebb and flow and let silence and down-time do wonders on De-Loused. Amputechture and Bedlam are basically punches in the face. Good for what they are, but not versatile, or wholly enjoyable. It's a niche album from a niche band.
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Posted: January 31 2008 at 00:05 |
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I purchased the album at Best Buy yesterday, which included a bonus DVD featuring live footage of Cygnus and a download code for two bonus tracks, Birthday and Pulled To Bits. Only problem, the bonus MP3's are not compatible with Mac or iTunes and cannot be imported into an iPod. The bonus DVD was cool, but I read an article stating that some DVD's are not working in American DVD players.
Overall I like the new album so far. I haven't listened to it enough to compare to their previous releases, but as others have already posted, there is obviously much less "filler". The songs that really jumped out to me after the first listen are Goliath and Agadez. Omar is amazing as usual, I really need to get one of his solo albums.
Edited by vnmn23 - January 31 2008 at 00:26
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The Pessimist
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Posted: January 30 2008 at 12:12 |
GoldenSpiral wrote:
kibble_alex wrote:
laplace wrote:
I've heard this now and I miss all the noise. I don't like the new drummer - he seems to have professional muso disorder and doesn't seem to be serving the songs all the time. I also wonder why they've stopped writing songs they way they did on De-loused; how much has the line-up changed since then? |
I agree with you on the drummer point. No doubt about it, he is excellent; he is more of a solo drummer though, like Billy Cobham and Mike Portnoy, as opposed to drummers like Alan White and Guy Evans, who play more for the music than themselves. In other words, Thomas Pridgen would be much more as a solist, not an accompanist.
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I don't know... I think the drummer kind of works in the context of TMV. What TMV does (and has always done) is just throw a ton of music right in your face and make you deal with it right there. They've never been enamored with subtlety or balance, but it works for them moreso than for other bands. |
The drummer does fit into TMV's post-psychodelic in-your-face sound quite nicely, however, it is blindingly obvious that he's a soloist, and he would be much more comfortable in that area. John Theodore is much better adapted to their style, as demonstrated perfectly in Cygnus... Vismund Cygnus off the Frances the mute album. He is crazy, but like all great inventors, he keeps his madness under control whilst at work, making him an extremely dynamic drummer.
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