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    Posted: January 10 2017 at 09:54
Univers Zero - 1313, Univers Zero - Heresie, Deathspell Omega albums, Shub Niggurath, Jacula, Archaia, etc...
Like the guy above said, the Avant-Prog and Zeuhl genre are filled with these type of music.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 10 2017 at 09:31
Most of the RIO and Zeuhl subgenres are filled with dark themes. Namely, Guapo, Nebelnest, The Residents, Art Zoyd. You won't find much skipping through a flowery meadow there.

Outside of that, check out Virus - The Black Flux
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 10 2017 at 08:49
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 10 2017 at 08:41
IQ - The Road of Bones
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 28 2014 at 17:34

Originally posted by The.Crimson.King The.Crimson.King wrote:

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Devil Doll - Eliogabalus (prog)
Morte Macabre - Symphonic Holocaust (prog)
Christian Death - The Path of Sorrows (doom)
Pulsar - Halloween (prog)
Shub Niggurath - Les Morts Vont Vite (prog)
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Only one question. If the names of the band, or the songs were something else, would you still feel the same? For example, if Pulsar's album was in French and it's title did not translate into "Halloween" or the picture in the cover would only suggest a literary something or other. would you still feel the same?
 
If you ever can, just read Matthew Gregory Lewis's book "The Monk", so you can see how someone can navigate from the sweetest of words, to the unbelievable bottom of all pits, and then some, almost within a page or two. And then wonder how it can come to an end!
 
This is, at least within a commercial ideal, the "face" of the worst. In music, it's hard, but I would think that we do "NOT" want to be intimidated by having the lyrics "suggest" something, instead of it being real.
 
As mentioned before, if you want to have an idea of some of the better written stuff in this area, Dennis Wheatley's "Black Magic Series" is actually a very difficult read that will have most of us really upset over most of it. Even I had a really hard time reading some of it. Aleister Crowley's Moonchild is the same, but he was aware that he could easily scare people, so he kept that side lighter. But his "Diary of a Drug Fiend" is massive and the best anti-drugs book EVER written!
 
There really is, to my imagination, no real progressive music that fits this description. For the most part, I would suggest that most of it is just playing with our imaginations and own fears ... and that is not what "evil" is really about! It's much more than just that!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 28 2014 at 16:26
I'd second Aluk Todolo and Morte Macabre - great suggestions.

Elend was new to me and I very much liked that piece - will investigate further.

In addition:

Athanor, Vos Cités Sont Des Tombeaux - a great modern addition to the Franco-Belgian axis of evil which brought us Shub-Niggurath, Present and Univers Zero. See: http://athanor.bandcamp.com/

Yeti, Things to Come and Volume Obliteration Transcendence

Tarantula Hawk, two untitled albums

Zu, Carboniferous

Guapo, Five Suns and Black Oni

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 27 2014 at 16:04
7 pages and no mention of Aluk Todolo? They're a very unique French band whose style consists of trancey expanded jams that seamlessly combine modern black metal with the most abrasive types of Kosmische Musik and post-rock. The end result is some very intense, noisy music with an incredible bleak and disturbing feel to it.



Closest point of comparison would perhaps be a rawer and darker Russian Circles, but that group aren't quite as ambitious yet in their composition.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 25 2014 at 09:11
Check out these guys, they're kinda new and I think they're what you're looking for.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 20 2013 at 20:41
Dr. Z's "Three Parts To My Soul" is one of the darkest, creepiest albums I've ever heard. "Le Poison Qui Rend Fou" by Present is also very creepy; it makes you feel like you're in walking through some dark laboratory.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 11 2013 at 18:05
Delirium Cordia by Fantomas or some of the albums by Devil Doll.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 06 2013 at 19:49
Originally posted by Starhammer Starhammer wrote:



Darker than black itself.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 06 2013 at 16:22
The darkest things in my collection that would qualify (though some blur the line from prog into doom metal)

Devil Doll - Eliogabalus (prog)
Univers Zero - UZED (prog)
Morte Macabre - Symphonic Holocaust (prog)
Opeth - Blackwater Park (doom)
Cephalic Carnage - The Halls of Amenti (doom)
Christian Death - The Path of Sorrows (doom)
My Dying Bride - As the Flower Withers (doom)
Diamonda Galas - The Plague Mass (screeching chaos!)
Pulsar - Halloween (prog)
Novembers Doom - The Knowing (doom)
Shub Niggurath - Les Morts Vont Vite (prog)




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 05 2013 at 23:54
I'm obviously biased but Hibernal's "The Machine" is a concept album with a sci-fi horror theme.  Lots of atmospherics and music to suit the mood.  Check out "Downward" below to see what I mean.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 01 2013 at 10:41
Gnaw Their Tongues and sometimes Abruptum absolutely. Some others I'd include would be Asmus Tietchens, Emprical Sleeping Consort, Black Mountain Transmitter, Edward Ka-Spel, Giancarlo Toniutti, Zoviet France, and H.N.A.S. Most of this stuff clearly isn't in the metal zone, and arguably not in the progressive House, but this weird ambient stuff is the creepiest stuff I can think of, and I have no respect for da rulez of da threadz coz rulez be for foolz.






Additionally, I find some of the stuff from composers like Xenakis, and Takemitsu to be quite creepy regardless of whether or not the composer intended for the pieces to be creepy. Some of this stuff can easily considered boring or downright hilarious, so I have quite a bit of respect for people who can consistently make music that is eerie and downright dodgy.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 01 2013 at 08:55
"Civilization Phaze III" by Frank Zappa is very ominous.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 01 2013 at 08:26
Originally posted by Kati Kati wrote:

King Crimson and  Van Der Graaf Generator do not have an evil feeling to me whatsoever, quite the contrary I feel good and awesome listening to them certainly not evil Smile thus I cannot add/comment here Big smile
 
Thank you ... it's insane that someone has to think that something is "evil" because of the lyrics, or the picture on the cover! THAT is totally bizarre, off the wall, and one reason why we all can be fooled so damn much by advertising, to the point where ... we don't know a thing!
 
And we think that fear of what we don't know is the debil ... and that is not true!
 
Now if we're talking about the person who is intentionally hiding that truth, or feeling ... that's the old Thoth definition of the Card number 15 on the Tarot ... the one that stands in front of the light hiding it from you! And this is meant in an educational content, hiding knowledge and truth from you, not a visual content of you not getting your tan on your butt! Embarrassed
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 12 2013 at 23:39
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 08 2013 at 14:52
Originally posted by cstack3 cstack3 wrote:

Originally posted by Sheavy Sheavy wrote:

Theres hardly been anythying in this thread that I truly consider dark, evil, or scary. That Mort Garson album is, frankly, a joke Ermm. I agree with Dobermensch's review of it. Nothing remotely evil about it...
 

I quite disagree, you have to remember the times that Garson composed it (late-1960's).  I grew up in that era, and there was quite a bit of paranoia regarding Satanism and Satanic cults.  This was reflected in TV shows such as the amazing episode "The Sign of Satan" on Alfred Hitchcock, http://imdb.com/title/tt0394086/    Satanism was also explored on "Thriller" and other US TV shows and was quite present in the mainstream media.  

The thinking on this in the US was quite paranoid, and the Charles Manson Family murders in 1969 brought this Satanism-frenzy to quite a crescendo.  This is all lost now over forty years later, but it was quite real at the time and, to many, terrifying.  

For Mort Garson (a Canadian) to take such a plunge when he did (1971) is nothing less than remarkable.  Listen closely to "Incubus" with headphones, keeping this definition in mind...try to get into the composer's head, it is rather disturbing. 

in·cu·bus
n. pl. in·cu·bus·es or in·cu·bi (-b)
1. An evil spirit supposed to descend upon and have sexual intercourse with women as they sleep.
2. A nightmare.
3. An oppressive or nightmarish burden.
 
Having titles refering to dark and evil things doesn't automatically make the music disturbing. The entire album just sounds hokey, there was much creepier stuff being made at the time this album came out, it may have been the one of the first electronic album to revolve around darkness, but it completely fails to be dark or frightening imo.
It actually sounds rather upbeat to me a fair amount of the time.
 
 
The only time Incubus gets slightly disturbing is the last minute or so, and I consider that a stretch, the slightly distorted females at the begining don't sound creepy at all, nor does the tribalistic beat.
 
 
An Electric Storm by White Noise is far creepier,
 
 
 
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 08 2013 at 11:40
Originally posted by Kati Kati wrote:

Originally posted by davidk davidk wrote:

I would like to find some new prog bands with a very Dark atmospherical feel to their music. Something Similar to maybe early King Crimson, Van Der Graaf Generator, or Comus, but it can be completely different. Just something with a dark evil feel, that can give somebody the creeps. I saw a post similar to this on another website, but it was no help. Please nothing like Tubular Bells, although I love Mike Oldfield.  
King Crimson and  Van Der Graaf Generator do not have an evil feeling to me whatsoever, quite the contrary I feel good and awesome listening to them certainly not evil Smile thus I cannot add/comment here Big smile
 
If you travel in a time machine to 1974, seat yourself in a room of born again Christians, and play the instrumental improvisational piece "Starless and Bible Black' ..they would in return spell out evil for you. I understand your personal taste and hold you in the highest regard, but I feel that you may be missing the point that evil is not always scary. Although I believe "Starless and Bible Black" falls into characterization of words like creepy mysterious horror. Based on the fact that the band is vamping off tri-tones or better known to the church as the "Devil's Interval".
 
When you're a seasoned musician this topic feels a bit moronic based on certain realities of the past. Historically..20TH Century composers were bashed by a majority of people in the U.S....but yet..these tri-tones were utilized through the commercial media to make money. "The Twilight Zone", "Outer Limits" and the list goes on. It's safe base for the average person to accept a dark piece if it's contained to back an actor in a horror film..but God forbid if it has serious intentions like in Art Zoyd's music or as I mentioned before..S.A.B.B. The last thing on earth a seasoned musician needs to be confronted with is a comment like "Hey Boy".."You're playing Devil music" . Only in America though..?
 
Musicians compose around personal experiences. If they have a mysterious experience..they may compose a dark piece. Playing tri-tones in every form your brain can create..will naturally create a sound which is mysterious in nature or to some people...evil. It's suppose to be completely natural like any other form of musicial expression. However it offends religion which is a debate..however..not to deny religious beliefs ..but what comes natural to a musician is part of what they are born with. The ability to produce music from experiences in the real world without having a direct motive. That is why I find the subject annoying. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 08 2013 at 02:26
Hmm...tried reading through the first couple of pages, but got lazy so maybe these have already been mentioned:
 
 
...and of course Abruptum, who are not included on PA, but you can find them on Metal Music Archives: http://www.metalmusicarchives.com/abruptum.aspx?ac=abruptum


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