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Chozal
Forum Senior Member Joined: December 01 2011 Location: Melun, France Status: Offline Points: 187 |
Topic: Genre Obsession! Posted: February 03 2012 at 18:45 |
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I'm quite obsessed with the metal subgenres, and my friends often poke fun at me for that matter, but I do find in the contrary that there are a little too much of the subgenres in prog :3 But as said above, this site is meant to classify prog rock, and it does a fine job at that.
All I'd say is don't bother with the subgenres if you don't like 'em but don't remove them from other users as they are quite useful to explore new directions. |
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FunkyM
Forum Senior Member Joined: November 12 2010 Location: Funkytown Status: Offline Points: 134 |
Posted: February 03 2012 at 16:32 | |||
Gotta catch 'em all? Edited by FunkyM - February 03 2012 at 16:33 |
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RH
Forum Groupie Joined: October 09 2011 Location: Rio de Janeiro Status: Offline Points: 97 |
Posted: January 29 2012 at 08:48 | |||
Prog. Rock naturally !
In a human being life our minds passing many stages, like evolutions, since early times until a mature point of views, example: My obsession in my early times was hard rock but after with a mature stage of think, I knew Prog. Rock infinity ocean and find my place ,with my boat fishing and knowing different fishes styles!
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Tormato
Forum Senior Member Joined: November 24 2005 Location: Mexico Status: Offline Points: 171 |
Posted: January 16 2012 at 18:27 | |||
Same here, exactly. I've never had a problem with finding the exact info that I need about any prog artist/band, album or song right here, and only here. PA is the only prog web page I visit and I need. If it's not in PA, probably not worthy.
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I like Tormato, so shoot me! Every person in the world can't think the same.
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JJLehto
Prog Reviewer Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Tallahassee, FL Status: Offline Points: 34550 |
Posted: January 12 2012 at 20:01 | |||
Yeah I used to be quite a genre stickler myself and obsessed with labeling, maybe because of that is how I ended up like this...I hate genres frankly
With metal, I now have like 6 or 7 I use for my personal collection and prog rock is pretty much prog rock. I just drove myself insane with genres and found it easier and more logical just to consolidate. Started more than a few arguments about how can I think "x" is that? or how "y" isn't even really a genre? Besides the band themselves don't care a lick, even if they do! It seems every artist regardless of genre say "nah we're just (x) and whatever label you wanna put on us doesn't matter". A little lame to here from a band that is blatantly playing a style but valid point anyway! |
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Atavachron
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: September 30 2006 Location: Pearland Status: Offline Points: 64665 |
Posted: January 12 2012 at 19:39 | |||
I suppose one possible solution could be to just start allowing readers/members to tag albums via some separate indicator that had no connection to Team-assigned genres, gradually creating a public tagging system.
But if you ask me, those things can be a real mess with terms as 'Psychedelic/Jazz-Funk Symphonic ElectroSpace Jam-Oriented Death Math Metal'. If someone actually finds that helpful, assuming they trust that many mishmashed opinions, so be it. |
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infandous
Forum Senior Member Joined: March 23 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2447 |
Posted: January 10 2012 at 09:10 | |||
I think the album tagging idea is fantastic, and I have no problems with the current categorizations. Well, some specific bands I take issue with how they were categorized, but as mentioned previously, tagging would help to eliminate some of this.
Categorization is impossible to avoid, no matter how much you think you are above it or whatever (heck, "music" is itself a category). As human beings, it's what we do, consciously or unconsciously, every single one of us. I mean, if we didn't, there would be no progarchives at all. Just a giant, all inclusive, music site where you couldn't find anything you wanted to find because none of it would be classified in any way. Except alphabetically, which is of course a classification. So you can't really get around it no matter what you do. Every argument I see against classification is specific to a given band or album. I think tagging would be the best way to resolve a lot of this. The band would get classified a specific way by the admins, then it would be up to the users to tag the individual albums. This might result in a bands albums not matching their classification, but if that happened (which, I think, would be extremely rare) then the admins could take another look at the band and possibly re-classify them. In any case, I don't mind things the way they are but do agree with Logan that it would be nice to find cross genre acts easier on the site. As it is, I don't really do much research here either, unless I hear about a specific band or bands elsewhere and want to find out more about them and their albums here. Edited by infandous - January 10 2012 at 09:11 |
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centum
Forum Senior Member Joined: January 08 2012 Location: Moscow Status: Offline Points: 171 |
Posted: January 09 2012 at 19:25 | |||
oh my god, it's so funny you should mention Sanremo it has a very strong nostalgic popularity in Russia, we have fests like 80's Discotheque all the time |
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progprogprog
Forum Senior Member Joined: December 05 2011 Status: Offline Points: 279 |
Posted: January 09 2012 at 19:22 | |||
No one can avoid it, actually I believe you need it in order to compare your sentimental responses in different angles of music.But as you start analyzing it, that's where real obsession triggers.
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Always thinking in extremes.That's my way to beat boredom.
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CloseToTheMoon
Forum Senior Member Joined: September 28 2010 Location: Michigan Status: Offline Points: 223 |
Posted: January 09 2012 at 18:38 | |||
I'm guilty of genre obsession. I can say I love Prog all day long, but really it's more complicated than that. I can listen to some fusion if the guitars are up front, but I can't do jazz for more than an hour or so.
I go on band-to-band basis. That will usually pull me into a sub-genre. |
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It's funny how the colors of the real world only seem really real when you viddy them on the screen.
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progprogprog
Forum Senior Member Joined: December 05 2011 Status: Offline Points: 279 |
Posted: January 09 2012 at 09:46 | |||
Don't smoke, and You'll be fine.
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Always thinking in extremes.That's my way to beat boredom.
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octopus-4
Special Collaborator RIO/Avant/Zeuhl,Neo & Post/Math Teams Joined: October 31 2006 Location: Italy Status: Offline Points: 13431 |
Posted: January 09 2012 at 09:04 | |||
I would sign-off 40 years...I'm expecting to be around for less time, honestly.
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Curiosity killed a cat, Schroedinger only half.
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Turillazzo
Forum Senior Member Joined: May 31 2011 Location: Turin Status: Offline Points: 144 |
Posted: January 09 2012 at 08:37 | |||
I absolutely agree with what you're saying...but there are many bands coming back (RRR, Maxophone) and also a lot of new ones (like Tempio delle Clessidre). The bands are not the problems, it's just that the fanbase is mainly composed of middle-aged men and in 40 years they'll be all dead. |
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ExittheLemming
Forum Senior Member Joined: October 19 2007 Location: Penal Colony Status: Offline Points: 11415 |
Posted: January 06 2012 at 16:27 | |||
I would love to see multi genre album/artist tagging on PA (it would help prevent most of the tiresome squabbles that the Admins have to wade into over classification etc) I'm not a techie person but I would imagine converting our huge database to be compatible with such a system would be a hugely complex job?
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Icarium
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Posted: January 06 2012 at 13:57 | |||
Edited by aginor - January 06 2012 at 13:58 |
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progprogprog
Forum Senior Member Joined: December 05 2011 Status: Offline Points: 279 |
Posted: January 06 2012 at 13:30 | |||
Though, I don't see it far from "love".Those two is proven to be abnormal I believe fanaticism makes life more alive.
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Always thinking in extremes.That's my way to beat boredom.
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Icarium
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Posted: January 06 2012 at 13:23 | |||
I have an obsession with Elton John now, as you can see in my avatar/sig
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progprogprog
Forum Senior Member Joined: December 05 2011 Status: Offline Points: 279 |
Posted: January 06 2012 at 13:13 | |||
Generally, classification's good as long as it's not turned into an obsession, IMO.
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Always thinking in extremes.That's my way to beat boredom.
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progprogprog
Forum Senior Member Joined: December 05 2011 Status: Offline Points: 279 |
Posted: January 06 2012 at 13:10 | |||
media and commercial craps
Edited by progprogprog - January 06 2012 at 14:18 |
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Always thinking in extremes.That's my way to beat boredom.
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Ytse_Jam
Forum Senior Member Joined: December 08 2011 Location: Italy Status: Offline Points: 502 |
Posted: January 06 2012 at 13:07 | |||
I think classification is useful in sites like PA where you can route your views among bands that you (are supposed to) like by simply sorting them by subgenre. If I like Genesis a lot, I would search for other symphonic prog instead of some krautrock..
Beyond this, I usually dont care too much about subgenres. |
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