Do you think that life is fair?

Big Ears wrote: If life was fair, Mr Cameron would have an enormous boil on the end of his nose.

 

Some say that life is how you make it, and I tend to agree. Sure, there are some who have everything when they are born, but people who struggle to accomplish something, manage to do it in most of the cases. It is easier to complain than to do something. And no, life is not fair.

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Life is fair when your chewin' screwin' playin' drinkin' sleepin' dreamin' watchin' relaxin'
Life is unfair when your bleedin' when your hairs recedin' when your wife is leavin' when your team's a losin' when your homes explodin' when your beaches are erodin, when election promises are brokin....

^Likewise

Dean wrote: whatever. (is this tredium going on for much longer?)

 

Hello, I'd like a Double Dimple!

Edited by presdoug - April 26 2012 at 16:29

whatever. (is this tredium going on for much longer?)

Equality 7-2521 wrote: I can give you 1000 examples to demonstrate that there's no equality of concepts. I could probably do a literature search that reveals the same thing has been shown experimentally. It's just unrealistic to say that they represent the same thing.

There is some type of disparity in every example of unfairness, I think you are being to restrictive in your understanding of disparity, and too abstract about unfairness. If it is not based on the cognition of differences, what is it based on?

As I have pointed out, unfairness is not necessarily negative or positive. It is not some abstract state of negativity, but the product of you or something being in a certain real position vis a vis potential selfs, situations, or similar others/objects which allows an understanding of being unallowed to fulfill said potential, or being allowed to do so while others/or different objects do not fulfill potential in relation to self, situation or object. The range of things and situations covered by this is immense, and not limited to any one example or simply "jealousy."

Unfairness is the subjective side of Disparity, its objective side.

Unfairness should not be abstracted into just a negative feeling, which renders it incomprehensible. Anything "bad" (abstraction) is "unfair" (abstraction) and life (abstract existence) is not "good" (abstraction) or "bad" (abstraction), so it is not "unfair" (abstraction) ... what does that even mean? This is idealistic analysis divorced from any materialistic analysis, but best not to get into that again.



 




Edited by RoyFairbank - April 25 2012 at 18:56

What is life? Are we talking about an unreachable abstraction?

There is life as a human in human society,

and "life".... abstract existence....

Abstract existence as an abstraction intrinsically has no meaning, so of course it can neither be fair or unfair....

Concrete life, as a certain human being in a certain human society, is a different matter....

As has been said, it would then be a subjective matter, I would add, based on perceived disparity....

If the disparity is not percieved... then it would not be unfair. The serf in the example may or may not perceive disparity, as I said, he may see his life as superior... it is really irrelevant. If he does happen to perceive a negative disparity, he is sensing unfairness.

On the other hand, if he thought his lifestyle was superior, then perhaps he would sense a disparity in his favor, unfairness in his favor. So unfairness does not have to be negative or positive, or one or the other.

As for the understanding about disparity and unfairness, it is borne out even by the dictionary definition:

Epig: Yes, yes, we sometimes use words in a general sense that doesn't encompass all possible inclusions, very good, you make this point quite regularly.Dean: You gotta let this hard-on you have for me go. This thing you're doing following me around and picking on all my posts... it's just not fair.

Edited by Textbook - April 25 2012 at 16:18