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SouthSideoftheSky
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Topic: Dio Posted: July 13 2012 at 03:04 |
Ronnie James Dio is one of my favourite singers. His work with Rainbow is simply magnificent. His work with Black Sabbath is very good too. Dio was a good band as well, especially live. I would therefore strongly recommend beginning with a live release. The two concert DVDs Evil Or Divine and Holy Diver Live are both great! They both contain a good selection of Dio, Rainbow, and Black Sabbath songs.
Dio's studio albums are a mixed bag. Personally, I have a soft spot for Dream Evil. The song All The Fools Sailed Away is excellent and rather proggy. Another proggy song is Egypt (The Chains Are One) from the Last In Line album. The most proggy album overall of his is probably the conceptual Magica. It has some good songs.
Personally I think that Dio should be added to Prog Related (and so should Ozzy Osbourne)
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wjohnd
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Posted: July 08 2012 at 07:06 |
cstack3 wrote:
That got me to thinking...was all the cheese-rock of the '80s the inspiration for THIS?? Might well have been!!
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A necessary condition but not sufficient for this bit of bonkers rockeratics
Too much Primula or Danish Blue before bedtime perhaps.
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Posted: July 08 2012 at 06:19 |
cstack3 wrote:
p.s. His Royal Majesty, The King of Prog Cheese....
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Holy crap, we have that exact same chair at the summer place. Maybe I'll have to haul it out to the yard and take a good pose photo of my own some day.
Anyway, Dio is the only artist I can think of who's made masterpiece albums as part of three different bands. That's Rising, Heaven & Hell and Holy Diver, and plenty of his other stuff doesn't fall far behind. Someone mentioned Killing the Dragon, which is one of my favourite Dio things hands down.
But prog lounge?
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cstack3
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Posted: July 08 2012 at 03:57 |
wjohnd wrote:
Having lived through the 80s we all know you had to chew your way through a ton of cheese if you were going to stay a rock fan.
(black sabbath + cheese = spinal tap stonehenge sequence) |
That got me to thinking...was all the cheese-rock of the '80s the inspiration for THIS?? Might well have been!!
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wjohnd
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Posted: July 08 2012 at 02:14 |
Having lived through the 80s we all know you had to chew your way through a ton of cheese if you were going to stay a rock fan.
(black sabbath + cheese = spinal tap stonehenge sequence)
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rogerthat
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Posted: July 07 2012 at 22:13 |
If you liked the Dehumanizer album or Devil You Know, do try Strange Highways. It's on similar lines. I love the angry version of Dio more than the 'angelic' one.
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Posted: July 07 2012 at 20:45 |
that picture of Rick Wakeman never gets old, man... Athough contemporary prog needs more capes and less "oooh, I'm so post-everything".
Back on topic, I always stick to Dio's collaborations in Sabbath (mostly The Mob Rules and H&H) and Rainbow. I don't care that much about his solo career. Elf seems like the common heavy rock band of the early 70's, but keep in mind that (as far as I know), most of Elf's members worked with Blackmore for the first Rainbow album.
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cstack3
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Posted: July 07 2012 at 16:13 |
Blacksword wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
No more cheesy than Sabbath or Rainbow for sure. |
80's Rainbow was pretty cheesy. I still liked most of it though..
Sabbath, cheesy?? When was that? They've been sh*t, but I wouldn't describe them as cheesy. |
...upon careful reflection, I'd say that much of prog is also rather cheesy! That's okay, it gives the music character! I'll take high-quality cheese-rock ANY day, rather than cheap-Velveeta-out-for-cash cheese-rock (Kiss for example).
Dio must've had a great sense of humor...coming up with the "devil salute," based upon an old Italian "devil sign" he learned as a lad!
I saw him in concert with his solo band about 1991, he was excellent! He did a wide selection of tunes including Rainbow and Sabbath. Geezer Butler joined him onstage for the encore, it was the beginning of the Heaven & Hell reunion. Amazing vocals....
RIP, RJD! You are missed.
p.s. His Royal Majesty, The King of Prog Cheese....
Edited by cstack3 - July 07 2012 at 16:14
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Posted: July 06 2012 at 20:26 |
Killing The Dragon is a great album as well. Every bit as good as his first 2 solo albums, imo.
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Posted: July 06 2012 at 06:22 |
Blacksword wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
No more cheesy than Sabbath or Rainbow for sure. |
80's Rainbow was pretty cheesy. I still liked most of it though..
Sabbath, cheesy?? When was that? They've been sh*t, but I wouldn't describe them as cheesy. |
That's my point.
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Blacksword
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Posted: July 06 2012 at 04:40 |
Snow Dog wrote:
No more cheesy than Sabbath or Rainbow for sure. | 80's Rainbow was pretty cheesy. I still liked most of it though.. Sabbath, cheesy?? When was that? They've been sh*t, but I wouldn't describe them as cheesy.
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Posted: July 05 2012 at 14:50 |
lazland wrote:
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What he achieved on Holy Diver, he built on for Last In Line - both of these are not only great Dio albums, but classics of the genre. |
Absolutely |
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Posted: July 04 2012 at 15:43 |
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What he achieved on Holy Diver, he built on for Last In Line - both of these are not only great Dio albums, but classics of the genre. |
Absolutely Elf can be seen as a loose template for Rainbow, who became a great band with Rising. I would say that they are for completists only.
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Posted: July 04 2012 at 15:27 |
Elf is interesting for Dio fans. Other than that I put it firmly in the for completionists only category. Honesly its been two decades since I listened to an Elf album. My memories of it are that it wasn't all that hard. Not really light rock either. Just garden variety rock. Nothing terribly inventive either. There was some cheese though.. some silly song about rainy days with the horrid line " its been found. You can't get brown. rain go away". It was well sung with a nice sing songy broadwayesque melody but the lyrics... ugh. Even I cannot ignore lyrics when they are like that.
Also I give another thumbs up for Holy Diver and Last in Line. Especially Last in Line. Must have for metal fans. Must have for Dio fans.
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Jim Garten
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Posted: July 04 2012 at 07:55 |
What he achieved on Holy Diver, he built on for Last In Line - both of these are not only great Dio albums, but classics of the genre.
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Posted: July 04 2012 at 07:35 |
No more cheesy than Sabbath or Rainbow for sure.
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Blacksword
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Posted: July 04 2012 at 07:22 |
From the 80's, I think both Holy Diver and he Last in Line are worth getting. Not cheesy in my opinion, certainly not when compared to a lot of rock that was about at the time.
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JesusisLord
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Posted: July 04 2012 at 03:21 |
Thanx for the input Gentlemen. Will be investigating all suggestions.
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Posted: July 04 2012 at 02:46 |
'strange highways' is a great hard rock/heavy metal record... made right after black sabbath's 'dehumanizer'-he quit the band because, apparently, they wanted ozzy to do some songs on tour/a certain concert?... anyway, lots of drama; but both of these albums are good... heavy(not prog)... I think 'strange highways' is one of dio's best recs
i think this period was fertile for dio because of the promise/challenging musical/commercial landscape... it ended up being a bust for dio's efforts=but produced some very good heavy metal... great lyrics... great playing on these albums... the band was hot
Edited by gazagod - July 04 2012 at 02:47
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prog4evr
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Posted: July 04 2012 at 00:33 |
ClemofNazareth wrote:
He did an awesome job on "Mask of the Great Deceiver" on Kerry Livgren's first solo album. A very surprising collaboration considering that was Livgren's christian 'coming out' record. |
THIS!
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