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    Posted: October 24 2012 at 21:42
That's a very respectable reply from Luke. Anyone who's watched the live DVD `Going Off On Two' would see right before their eyes the making of a total future progressive rock star in Luke. A potential new Steve Hillage right there. There was a real joy and love evident in his performance too. A guy that young to have so much talent as a musician is scary-good, and hugely inspiring.

Looking forward to his next move, and interested to find out how Maschine end up sounding!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 23 2012 at 15:09
Originally posted by Pekka Pekka wrote:

Originally posted by Meurgley Meurgley wrote:

Originally posted by Pekka Pekka wrote:

My question was rhetorical (not to be taken literally).

Sorry, it's sometimes hard to tell.


No worries! There are so many non-English speakers here that the language barrier will occasionally cause confusion about the wording!

Anyway, there has been a response to Andy Tillison's brief - Luke Machin has said his piece and contrary to my concern that there had been a fall-out, there hasn't.

Now the dust has settled after a week or so of the disband of The Tangent, I think now is the time to share my views. First and foremost The Tangent has been a wonderful ride, a journey full of experiences and exciting times. This has been the greatest musical journey of my life so far and I have to owe this all to the man behind the music Mr. Andy Tillison. I know Andy more than most and after sp
ending hours and hours in the studio co-producing COMM with the man, there was never a raised voice or an argument in view. Andy has without a doubt given my musical career the platform to stand on and perform to the highest level to date, this will never be forgotten and will always be remembered.

I'm not going sit here typing all the disagreements because who wants to read that?
I certainly wouldn't want to read about the ins and outs of a split from one of my favourite bands. But I do want to stress that this was certainly not Dan's, Tony's or my de
cision to make, this got taken out of our hands during the middle of this year.
The upcoming shows with IO Earth were all booked and confirmed and Myself, Dan and Tony were all set to go, physically, mentally and financially. Saying that this split was a geographical/financial decision was true, but true for one person.
Myself, Dan and Tony offered to do a last show at The Peel or The Robin 2 because we wanted to perform one last time for the fans that have known The Tangent and loved this latest incarnation. At this time though, this was completely taken out of our hands and we were so disappointed that we couldn't play for you one last time. I have to thank all the fans that have supported this lineup and who have taken the time to travel far and wide to come to our live shows and to listen to our releases COMM & Going off on 2. This will never be forgotten. When I first joined the band Andy said to me that this was more of a studio band, meaning The Tangent concentrate on releasing studio albums rather than live shows. When Dan & Tony joined the band, The Tangent live shows became a whole new experience and got huge responses from the audience at each and every concert. This was the best Tangent band for many different reasons but mainly because we had such a good time and the four of us really enjoyed each others company.

It is a sad way to end this but a breath of fresh air at the same time because I have gained knowledge, experience and most of all a lot of friends on my musical journey. Maschine is now, and Maschine are ready to hit the studio to record our debut album which we have some incredibly exciting news to follow next month.
So turns a new chapter where there is a silver lining to every black cloud.
I'm sure you'll want to join us on this journey because it's going to be one hell of a ride!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 20 2012 at 17:04
Originally posted by Meurgley Meurgley wrote:

Originally posted by Pekka Pekka wrote:

My question was rhetorical (not to be taken literally).

Sorry, it's sometimes hard to tell.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 13 2012 at 15:03
Originally posted by Pekka Pekka wrote:

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My question was rhetorical (not to be taken literally).




Given the circumstances for both The Tangent and Guy Manning and their similar problems with keeping a band intact, wouldn't it be a logical next step to combine their forces again? Since they are friends and have been working together for many years, and both are struggling with two separate careers, why not combine their musical endeavours under one headiing?

I admit wishful thinking on my part, as I missed Guy's guitar when he left the Tangent.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 13 2012 at 13:47
I agree, Tillison Is The Tangent, Andy is a very intelligent person and incredible musician.

Soon the phoenix will rise again!!!







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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 13 2012 at 08:29
To me, Andy IS The Tangent.
Let's hope that he can find a working businessmodel that makes him enough money to do the things he wants to do (touring etc).
Also, let's hope he will find a new collection of musicians to record the next album with, most likely that'll work out fine, he always had great musicians.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 12 2012 at 16:24
Originally posted by Meurgley Meurgley wrote:

Originally posted by infandous infandous wrote:

I should also mention that on Facebook, Tony Latham (the drummer) commented that there is more to this breakup than meets the eye and that he, Luke, and Dan will be releasing their own statement in the near future.


I browsed the FB page and this stood out to me too. The vibes it gives off are not good. Andy has stated the reason for Tangent's demise - why the need for the other to announce an imminent statement of their own?


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Originally posted by infandous infandous wrote:

I should also mention that on Facebook, Tony Latham (the drummer) commented that there is more to this breakup than meets the eye and that he, Luke, and Dan will be releasing their own statement in the near future.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 12 2012 at 16:16
I have all their studio output and really think Andy is a good guy and great musician.  And while this is certainly bad news it should be a lesson for all the hopeful musicians who think that fame and money is in the cards when you pick up a guitar. Extremely tough business and it is a wonder we don't see more of these announcements. I wish everyone in the band well and hope there aren't a lot of the hard feelings alluded to above.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 12 2012 at 15:49
Originally posted by infandous infandous wrote:

I should also mention that on Facebook, Tony Latham (the drummer) commented that there is more to this breakup than meets the eye and that he, Luke, and Dan will be releasing their own statement in the near future.


I browsed the FB page and this stood out to me too. The vibes it gives off are not good. Andy has stated the reason for Tangent's demise - why the need for the other to announce an imminent statement of their own?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 12 2012 at 14:29
This is one of those bands I discovered through Prog Archives and have thoroughly enjoyed everything I have heard by them.  I hope the band continues in some form and is able to provide us with some more quality prog music.  Living on the west coast of the U.S., bands like this rarely come my way (and if they do they hit either SoCal or the Bay Area and I don't hear about it), so I do not even think about seeing them live even if I have the time.  Prog is a recorded genre to me rather than a live one.  No single person can comprise a band - all other players offer something to the final mix of music, some more than others, of course.  This will create the inevitable differences in choice of direction for the band, which I am sure is part of the sub-text of Andy's message.  I hope we won't see a public airing of the band's dirty laundry, nor do I want to pick sides in any dispute.  Still, I would like to see Andy and Guy Manning collaborate again.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 12 2012 at 09:14
I don't like this band so much but Not as good as The Book is decent album.

Sad news, btw.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 11 2012 at 19:28
Damn that sucks. Hope they can release this " but during this very difficult and stressful time I have been writing some of the most ambitious music in the band's history" soon.
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 11 2012 at 19:24
This is a real shame, I had the pleasure of seeing the most recent line up at Summers End last year (I was also front and centre for that 2008 appearance) and the performance was absolutely brilliant, I really beleived that the mix of young and "old" gave them such a dynamic on stage and this was probably their best line up since The Music That Died Alone. I'm also really gutted becauseI was going to see them at the end of the month.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 11 2012 at 18:31
Hmmm Infandous, that's an interesting observation. I have to admit, my eyebrow raised a little when I read this line of Andy's statement:

"I believe that I have earned the mandate to continue releasing music under the name The Tangent...."

OK, reading between the lines and all, but that sounded a little...defensive? Then again, I can't help but feel that The Tangent has always been Andy's `baby', so to speak, and it's kind of a given that he brings in different musicians for each project.

Wait and see, of course...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 11 2012 at 09:46
I should also mention that on Facebook, Tony Latham (the drummer) commented that there is more to this breakup than meets the eye and that he, Luke, and Dan will be releasing their own statement in the near future.  It will be interesting to see what they have to say, as the implication is that they have a different take on this dissolution of the lineup.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 11 2012 at 09:44
I agree with David, this is not that big of a deal when you consider the history of this project (you can't really call it a "band", when you think about all the different lineups).  There has never been a Tangent album with the same lineup as the last.  It's Andy's musical vehicle, and he seems to always better himself each time something like this happens (IMO, of course).

This was quite possibly the best lineup of the band yet, but I suspect he'll be able to find something as good, if not better.  In any case, there will be more Tangent music in the future, so it's not such terrible news.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 10 2012 at 20:12
I'm a huge Tangent fan, as Andy knows, but this doesn't bother me for two reasons ; 
1)  I see the band as much as a musical platform, not unlike Clearlight, as I do a self-contained band, and Andy alludes to this in his post.   It's one of those projects that just won't die, at least anytime soon.
2)  They already recorded so much good music I'd be perfectly satisfied with the possibility there might not be any more.   Under the circumstances I'm amazed they've done as much as they have.   It's a lot more than some of the big bands here have released.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 10 2012 at 20:03

I saw Andy and the band at Terra in Quebec last summer. what a lost an what a shame. Andy it's always one steep foward and two steps back but I know you will be back.

 Andy you an count on my support . 
 
And for those of you who download  music for " free", remember nothing in life is free  case in point  Andy just paid the price
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 10 2012 at 19:01
Heartfelt, hertbreaking, but still full of so much endless potential.

Andy and the various evolving Tangent lineups have won over many of us progressive rock lovers, who've come to expect something intelligent, exciting and passionate from every different release. A number of outstanding progressive albums that reward endless replaying and stand up as consistently strong works.

We aren't going anywhere, we'll be there to support the band and look forward to any further Tangent/Andy release whatever form they may take.

Best of luck, Andy.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 10 2012 at 18:59
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