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James Lee
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Posted: August 02 2005 at 16:30 |
I was a vegetarian for a little over 7 years...but ultimately I
realized that I do like meat, and it is good for you. Remember, it's
not just the individual nutrients you need; the source context itself
makes a difference, especially with regards to proteins.
I had, and still have, considerable difficulty reconciling my need and
desire for meat with my often undue compassion; like most vegetarians,
I tend to anthropomorphize a little too much. Extremism is often easier
than moderation.
What I find strange (about myself, and generally) is how our views vary
depending on the animal in question. Personally, I never had much
problem eating seafood, even at my 'most vegetarian' period...seems
like the more cute or more like us an animal is, the more likely it is
we'll have reservations about eating it.
I know several hunters and many vegetarians, and some of the hunters
have truly impressed me with their awareness and respect for animals.
More so than the hardcore Vegans, probably- I have never had any issue
about eating eggs or wearing wool, which seems to me to encourage
respect for the animal that provided it. I still tend to sympathize
more with the vegetarians, but the truth is that we're omnivores (like
pigs or bears).
I'd just love to see mankind treat their food sources, plant and animal
alike, with more sense; there's really no need to 'efficiently' butcher
millions of animals daily and have 80% of it end up wasted. There are
plenty of ways to reduce the pain and terror we cause these creatures,
and still have the needed products.
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Tony R
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Posted: August 02 2005 at 16:55 |
James Lee wrote:
I'd just love to see mankind treat their food sources, plant and animal alike, with more sense; there's really no need to 'efficiently' butcher millions of animals daily and have 80% of it end up wasted. There are plenty of ways to reduce the pain and terror we cause these creatures, and still have the needed products.
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And is "casting pearls before swine" part of this caring attitude?
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gdub411
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Posted: August 02 2005 at 17:22 |
Well I'm a nutty whacky PETA activist.
That is the People Eating Tasty Animals society.
I also eat vegetarians.
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Tony R
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Posted: August 02 2005 at 17:28 |
gdub411 wrote:
Well I'm a nutty whacky PETA activist.
That is the People Eating Tasty Animals society.
I also eat vegetarians.
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Jeez Gdub! Meat-eater,we kinda guessed!
Veggie too,I bet.Prone to swallowing the odd cucumber whole, you naughty boy!
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Manunkind
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Posted: August 02 2005 at 17:36 |
Ah yes, vegetarians.
They smell.
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spectral
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Posted: August 02 2005 at 17:37 |
Manunkind wrote:
Ah yes, vegetarians.
They smell.
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yep, we all smell of sex. in fact, we ooze it from every pore. women fall at our feet. chicks love a veggie!
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"...misty halos made visible by the spectral illumination of moonshine."
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Jared
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Posted: August 02 2005 at 17:39 |
I'm a vegetarian...have been for 8 years and don't feel the need to eat meat at all...just the thought of it ...though I certainly don't bang on about it, and am happy for everyone else to do so if they desire...
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TheProgtologist
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Posted: August 02 2005 at 20:33 |
Meat Meat Meat all the way.I worked in my uncle's butcher shop till i was 19 and I absolutely love meat,can't get enough of the stuff.Also love seafood,I live 1 block away from Baltimore's Inner harbor and we eat a lot of Md. blue crab,fresh water mussels,scallops,lobster,etc.I also consume a lot of vegetables but I can't see the point of eating NOTHING but veggies.My 14 year old daughter is a very strict vegetarian(don't know where she got that from),and eats absolutely no meat,no fish,no eggs,nothing.I don't discourage it but she is very hard to cook for.
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James Lee
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Posted: August 02 2005 at 21:02 |
Tony R wrote:
James Lee wrote:
I'd just love to see
mankind treat their food sources, plant and animal alike, with more
sense; there's really no need to 'efficiently' butcher millions of
animals daily and have 80% of it end up wasted. There are plenty of
ways to reduce the pain and terror we cause these creatures, and still
have the needed products.
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And is "casting pearls before swine" part of this caring attitude? |
actually it's "playing violin for the water buffalo"...I thought it was
a pleasing mental image. Any underlying meaning is wholly
unintentional.
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stonebeard
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Posted: August 02 2005 at 21:07 |
if you count the hops that they use to make beer...then i'm a very drunk vegetarian.
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Borealis
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Posted: August 02 2005 at 21:21 |
It seems like there's a lot of vegetarian here. I thought it was very very rare.
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Vive le Québec libre!...
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Don_Frog
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Posted: August 02 2005 at 22:01 |
I don't eat red meat, but I'll eat any seafood or birds. I figure
I'm paying birds back for them crapping all over my car. If they
stop crapping on my car I'll stop eating them.
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James Lee
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Posted: August 02 2005 at 22:08 |
^
all I could think of is: "when pigs fly..."
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Man With Hat
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Posted: August 02 2005 at 22:10 |
Don_Frog wrote:
I don't eat red meat, but I'll eat any seafood or birds. I figure I'm paying birds back for them crapping all over my car. If they stop crapping on my car I'll stop eating them. |
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Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect.
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stonebeard
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Posted: August 02 2005 at 22:13 |
i once ate an elephant...
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Man With Hat
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Posted: August 02 2005 at 22:18 |
stonebeard wrote:
i once ate an elephant... |
Whats the best way to cook elephant??
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Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect.
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stonebeard
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Posted: August 02 2005 at 22:20 |
Man With Hat wrote:
stonebeard wrote:
i once ate an elephant... |
Whats the best way to cook elephant??
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you can cook it ?
oh......
oops......
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Man With Hat
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Posted: August 02 2005 at 22:22 |
stonebeard wrote:
Man With Hat wrote:
stonebeard wrote:
i once ate an elephant... |
Whats the best way to cook elephant??
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you can cook it ?
oh......
oops......
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Thats what i figured.
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Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect.
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stonebeard
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Posted: August 02 2005 at 22:23 |
Man With Hat wrote:
stonebeard wrote:
Man With Hat wrote:
stonebeard wrote:
i once ate an elephant... |
Whats the best way to cook elephant??
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you can cook it ?
oh......
oops......
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Thats what i figured.
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you did it wrong...
...it's:
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Man With Hat
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Posted: August 02 2005 at 22:26 |
stonebeard wrote:
Man With Hat wrote:
stonebeard wrote:
Man With Hat wrote:
stonebeard wrote:
i once ate an elephant... |
Whats the best way to cook elephant??
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you can cook it ?
oh......
oops......
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Thats what i figured.
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you did it wrong...
...it's:
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Well, it would have been that if what you said was funnier
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Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect.
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