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Clark Ashton
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Topic: The Who Posted: August 05 2005 at 02:10 |
I believe The Who have had more progressive moments in their music than alot of the bands listed on the archives. Am I alone?
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Cygnus X-2
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Posted: August 05 2005 at 02:21 |
They've had many progressive moments throughout the span of their career, but not enough to be included in the Archives. I don't say this because I dislike them, they are in fact by favorite band along with Rush.
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Man With Hat
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Posted: August 07 2005 at 22:33 |
I agree with CX-2. At times, yes...but not enough. But a great band.
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Damen
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Posted: August 07 2005 at 22:46 |
They did create the first "Rock Opera" though.
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Clark Ashton
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Posted: August 09 2005 at 02:18 |
I'd just like to point out that they had 2 full length rock operas "Tommy" 1969 & "Quadrophenia" 1973 both of which were released before "The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway" 1974. Not to mention the Lifehouse concept would have had an epic scope, even by today's standards, if given the chance to reach fruition. "A Quick One While He's Away" was one of the earliest multi-part tracks. The use of the silly jingles between songs on "The Who Sell Out". They were responsible, in part, for rock music's maturing past the "Gimme Some Money/(Listen To The) Flower People" sound. They did a rock cover of Edvard Grieg's "In the Hall of the Mountain King" 20 years before Savatage. And John Entwistle was the first Death Growl vocalist in history (sorry, that might be too much ).
If The Moody Blues, Uriah Heep, Styx, and Queen are Progressive, I fail to understand why The Who are not.
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Damen
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Posted: August 09 2005 at 02:53 |
They should be under Art Rock IMO, they are much more deserving than Queen.
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"It's amazing that we've been able to put up with each other for 35 years. Most marriages don't last that long these days."
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Logos
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Posted: August 09 2005 at 06:30 |
Damen wrote:
They did create the first "Rock Opera" though. |
We've been through this a million times, but no, they didn't create the first rock opera. That was "S.F. Sorrow" by The Pretty Things.
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GoldenSpiral
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Posted: August 09 2005 at 08:23 |
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Posted: August 09 2005 at 08:53 |
I would agree that A Quick One, Tommy and Quadrophenia makes them more prog than Queen.
When did they cover "In the Hall of the Mountain King" by the way?
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Clark Ashton
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Posted: August 09 2005 at 10:58 |
"Hall Of The Mountain King" was on The Who Sell Out (1967)
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Cygnus X-2
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Posted: August 11 2005 at 01:42 |
Clark Ashton wrote:
"Hall Of The Mountain King" was on The Who Sell Out (1967) |
Correction, Hall of the Mountain was an unreleased track that was re-released on the Re-issue of The Who Sell Out (I'm the resident Who expect, so to speak)...
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Eetu Pellonpaa
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Posted: August 11 2005 at 08:57 |
I don't know about their progginess, but they were great act especially 1965-1970! My favourites are "Live at Leeds" LP and "Live at Isle of Wight Festival" DVD. Sadly, "the dope song" is somehow missing (?!) from the DVD release, but you can see it in "The Message of Love" DVD instead.
Their live8 performance was great too!
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thebourgeoisie8
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Posted: August 18 2005 at 03:36 |
the who should definatly be here for the sake of tommy, whos next, quadrophenia (one of my all time favorite pieces of music AND its uber prog) just to name a few and some of their older stuff-the ones you guys dont think about- are very prog-ish.
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nothin hes got he realy needs
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Biekin
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Posted: August 19 2005 at 11:40 |
There are a lot of bands from the 70s that have something proggy in their music, byt when considering their complete output you've to conclude that proggy characteristic didn't play a considerable role in their complete music considered as an entity. The Who is such a band...
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Dick Heath
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Posted: August 19 2005 at 21:10 |
Logos wrote:
Damen wrote:
They did create the first "Rock Opera" though. |
We've been through this a million times, but no, they didn't create
the first rock opera. That was "S.F. Sorrow" by The Pretty Things.
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Logos thanks for saving me from saying that for the 50th time here (or
seems like that) - Pete Townshend acknowsledges The Pretty Things' SF
Sorrow as the first full Rock Opera release - although if Keith West's
record label had been more than interested than just getting singles
hits, then Keith West's Teenage Opera would have got in - instead
it had to be disintered from the archives by RPM Records over 20 years
later for CD release.
I hope the next person who regurgitates that has to pay 25 pounds,
dollars, euros or equivalent into t he local musicians charity fund!
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M. B. Zapelini
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Posted: August 20 2005 at 19:34 |
Damen wrote:
They did create the first "Rock Opera" though. |
No, it was The Kinks.
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Cygnus X-2
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Posted: August 21 2005 at 03:52 |
M. B. Zapelini wrote:
Damen wrote:
They did create the first "Rock Opera" though. |
No, it was The Kinks.
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No, it wasn't. Read the post above yours.
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Haldun
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Posted: August 24 2005 at 16:34 |
They are more important than the bands listed in the archives like Haggard, Therion etc. The music absolutely can't be named as prog if we compare them with the bands in same era such as Yes, Genesis, VDGG... But if you ask me they are more "prog" than Radiohead or Coldplay.
They kick ass in Live 8... Still rocking even the absence of Enwistle and Moon.
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Clark Ashton
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Posted: August 24 2005 at 18:49 |
Haldun wrote:
They are more important than the bands listed in the archives like Haggard, Therion etc. The music absolutely can't be named as prog if we compare them with the bands in same era such as Yes, Genesis, VDGG... But if you ask me they are more "prog" than Radiohead or Coldplay.
They kick ass in Live 8... Still rocking even the absence of Enwistle and Moon.
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Thank you. That was the point I was trying to make.
Plus, didn't someone say that there are no progressive artist, only progressive music?
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The Wizard
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Posted: August 31 2005 at 18:27 |
The who dabbled in prog, like zeppelin and queen, and definetely influenced it greatly.
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