Genesis vs Yes

I'll only rate the albums i know, by both bands.

Members

Steve Hackett vs Steve Howe (i don't like either as much as the other Steve H., of Gong)

Phil Collins vs Alan White (but Bruford is better the Collins and no mistake)

Mike Rutherford vs Chris Squire (pretty obvious is an understatement)

Peter Gabriel vs Jon Anderson (equal, as mentioned earlier Gabrial has the emotion but Anderson the range)

Tony Banks vs Rick Wakeman (who can top the caped crusader?)

So Genesis 1 point, Yes 3 points

Albums

Tresspass  vs  Time and a Word

Nursery Crime vs The Yes Album

Foxtrot vs Fragile (equal, i can't decide...)

Selling England By the Pound vs Close To The Edge (personal enjoyment )

Lamb Lies Down on Broadway vs Tales of topographic oceans (extremely close)

Trick of the tail vs Relayer

Wind and Wuthering vs Going for the one

Genesis 3 points, Yes 3 points

• Peter Gabriel - Jon Anderson
• Tony Banks - Rick Wakeman
• Steve Hackett - Steve Howe
• Mike Rutherford - Chris Squire
• Phil Collins - Bill Bruford

Albums:

• Nursery Cryme - The YES album
• Foxtrot - Fragile
• Genesis Live - Yessongs
• Selling England By The Pound - Close To The Edge
• The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway - Tales From Topographic Oceans
• A Trick of The Tail - Relayer
• Wind & Wuthering - Going For The One

Genesis wins, IMO!

Love the first two Yes LPs....great jazzy band that specialized in far out covers.  The first two Genesis LPs do little for me....some of Tresspass points the direction to the future....and some of the 12 string and flute passages were pretty groovy.  Of course, the lads in Yes were a bit older.....the members of Genesis were barely out of school when they made the first LP.

The addition of Howe accelerated the eap forward into the realm of epic prog.  Genesis, too, was heading in that direction with the very fine Nursery Cryme....but, again, Yes were the much more mature band and it really shows....The Yes Album is a true classic while Nursery Cryme, though an excellent LP and a HUGE leap forward for the band, simply pales in comparison.

Foxtrot and Selling England By The Pound are signature Genesis....no other band could have pulled off the vague English references and folksy themes of these albums.  They mark the absolute high points of the band and are certainly true progressive classics.  The same goes for Fragile and Close to the Edge.....the group and individual performances showed the boys were virtuosos and the true vanguard of the prog movement.  Verdict:  too close to call....don't wanna call....absolute must-have albums.

The Lamb is simply a more interesting record than Tales....though Tales contains some absolute stunning passages.  The Lamb was a real departure in sound for Genesis while Tales just rehashes their side long style.

On the flip side, Relayer is a much more daring LP than Trick of the Tail.  Relayer, while at times wildly atypical of the band's sound, is masterfully played if, at times, a bit bombastic, but definitely a prog record in every sense of the word.  Trick is a friendly bear hug of an album....sweet and bouncy and kind on the ears, but not very progressive.

Wind is where it ends for Genesis....but what an ending.  A solid return to the prog form.  And, again, at the same time Yes took a step back from prog in search of a radio friendly sound.  The bands almost seem to have been spying on each other....when one went proggy, the other went pop!  Never really noticed that before.

I won't go on....no LP after these really interest me.  I probably have owned and sold each and every release by Genesis after Wind.  Interesting pop music, but nothing to hold the ear too long....Three Sides Live might make it to the turntable on occasions.

As for post-GFTO Yes, I kinda like Tormato....and Drama has some interesting moments....but almost everything I heard after that is really drab....even the live stabs at the old classics....just bland.

FragileDT wrote: floydaholic wrote: Yes is the superior band Theres no doubt about that. Yes is the superior band with superior talent. Buuuut Genesis is better. (IMO)

Meh, to each his own. And superior, better, those two words are practically synonyms.

floydaholic wrote: Yes is the superior band

Theres no doubt about that. Yes is the superior band with superior talent.

Buuuut Genesis is better. (IMO)

floydaholic wrote: Yes is the superior band

I agree!

I apologize for the wrong album titles, I will edit it now.

Since Genesys is a very old love and I know them much better than I know Yes I will not vote on this thread. What is interesting That allmost everyone agrees that as players Yes are much better ones (with the exception on the singer) but the gap between the bands is much smaller when we deal with the music itself. It means that composing and song writing is more important than virtuosity. Better keep that in mind.

I must say that there are 2 mistakes on the album names : A trick of the tale and And then there were three. If we love the music we should respect it and write the accurate names.

Members, I'm comparing them talent wise. For example, I like Peter Gabriel's voice better than Jon Anderson (due to the intense emotion that Gabriel has) but I'm saying that Anderson is greater than Gabriel because he has a better voice.

Steve Hackett < Steve Howe

Phil Collins > Alan White

Edit : Phil Collins < Bill Bruford  (if you wish)

Mike Rutherford < Chris Squire

Peter Gabriel < Jon Anderson

Tony Banks < Rick Wakeman

Albums

From Genesis to REvelations = Yes

Tresspass  <  Time and a Word

Nursery Crime < The Yes Album

Foxtrot > Fragile

Selling England By the Pound < Close To The Edge

Genesis Live < Yessongs

Lamb Lies Down on Broadway > Tales of topographic oceans

Trick By the tail < Relayer

Wind and Wuthering < Going for the one

And there were three < Tormato

Duke < Drama

Genesis = 90125

Acabab = Big Generator

Even though I picked Yes for almost every single topic I like listening to Genesis better. If "More Fool Me" wasn't on Selling England I would have voted differently but since CTTE has no flaw and SEBTP has more fool me, the vote goes to Yes. Theres no question that Yes is more talented than Genesis member to member but I feel that Genesis write more emotional songs that are more enjoyable to listen to.