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The Miracle ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() Joined: May 29 2005 Location: hell Status: Offline Points: 28427 |
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Punk must die
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sbrushfan ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: November 07 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 1177 |
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I know that punks hated prog, but you'd have thought that they'd have been bedfellows. After all, they WERE groundbreaking...and no one had heard anything of the sort when either genre came about. BTW...what was the first punk album? The 1st prog album?
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Some world views are spacious, and some are merely spaced...
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B3Brad ![]() Forum Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: November 13 2005 Status: Offline Points: 28 |
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Genesis. Punks can actually take a listen to some of Pink Floyd stuff (as their recent sucess following Live 8 proved) but Genesis can be demeaned so easily by relating everything to Phil Collins and the 80's 'work.'
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'So Frank, you have long hair. Does that make you a woman?'
'You have a wooden leg. Does that make you a table?' |
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The Green Tank ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November 06 2005 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 244 |
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ELP embodied everything punk was against: 1. complicated songs 2. needing talent to play instruments 3. lyrics that didn't sound like a 5-year old had written them |
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AtLossForWords ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: October 11 2005 Status: Offline Points: 6699 |
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I voted Rush, all of the punks that i know here absolutely hate Rush, so i go on and on about how i'm a prog fanboy and how prog will always be the ultimate form of music. As far as the most hated bands among punks I'd go with these. Rush- Very artistic, and somewhat cheesey when they added keyboards. Plus, they hate Geddy's voice. ELP- Used the Moog to it's fullest extent. Punks hate anything that isn't a sh*tty drumset or a distorted guitar. Dream Theater- This is the most modern embodyment of anit-punk. The lyrics are conceptual, the guitars and keyboards trade solos, and all of the members are skilled. The songs are quite long. Every fan i know of hard, fast, and somewhat crappy music hates Dream Theater. |
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Drew ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 20 2005 Location: California Status: Offline Points: 12600 |
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Don't know if anyone has allready said this but..........Who gives a flying FU*K who punk fans don't like? F Punk!
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King of Loss ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: April 21 2005 Location: Boston, MA Status: Offline Points: 17060 |
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If they've ever had ELP, they would just DIE!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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Sam Fire ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: August 17 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 108 |
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"How do you spell 'pretentious'?" "E-L-P" (Ba-doom, cshhhhhh!!!) Actually, I read somewhere that the aforementioned "I Hate Pink Floyd" shirt was one of the two reasons that Rotten was hired as a vocalist for the Sex Pistols (the other being that he had green hair at the time). |
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THE DEMON CODE PREVENTS ME FROM DECLINING A ROCK-OFF CHALLENGE!!!
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Logos ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() Joined: March 08 2005 Location: Finland Status: Offline Points: 2383 |
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I also think that punks hate ELP the most, but I think it's reasonable, for Christ's sake even half of proggers hate them
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Hemispheres ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: December 22 2004 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 533 |
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true ive also read that Pete Shelly Of The Buzzcocks loved Can and alot of krautrock |
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el böthy ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: April 27 2005 Location: Argentina Status: Offline Points: 6336 |
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hahahahaa sad but somehow true...Im not one of them! Yes, ELP were the more hated band in the late seventies...Also Pink Floyd, but thouse punks didnt affect Floyds sells...ELP´s sells went doooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooownnnnnnnnn... Yes was also very hated!!! But what is very strange is that a lot of prog musicians (who were affected with the punk movement) actually respect punk quite a lot! And not only progers, but also other bands, like Led Zeppelin...Robert Plant said that althought the punks were against them they were one of the most important and one of the best thinks to happend to music...weird right? |
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"You want me to play what, Robert?"
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Olias ![]() Forum Groupie ![]() ![]() Joined: July 23 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 96 |
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---- Yup You´re right!! I´m not a Punk-Twat but I really hate anything from ELP, Jethro Tull, Eloy, Asia and specially the so-called American Prog: STYX, Glass Hammer and Kansas
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S.H.Kingston ![]() Forum Newbie ![]() Joined: November 02 2005 Status: Offline Points: 10 |
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I depends on what punks you ask. I am pretty much a f*ing punk and most of my freinds. Lots of old Genesis fans; lots of Tull fans (me especially); of course no worthy punk is gonna dis Crimson (L.T.I.A.??); old Syd Barrett Pink Floyd is pretty f*ing punk (Interstellar Overdrive?????); and Rush was an influence despite the apparent hatred. Lots of 80's punks grew up litsening to that stuff (All/'All' era Descendents???Lots of real technical parts to those guys). Faust, Neu! and Beefheart are all worshiped by punks... Anyway, I voted for Yes; mostly because of Rick Wakeman... |
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thanks!
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Alagithil ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: November 10 2005 Status: Offline Points: 122 |
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I think ELP, definitely... but I think a lot of that prog-bashing was strategy more than anything else. Punks aren't bad people...not the good ones, anyway...
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Life is like an avantgarde play because tuna. |
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FragileDT ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() VIP Member Joined: June 20 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 1485 |
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the Mars Volta. Tons of these 'punk' kids I know hate TMV because they say
they're "ruining" what punk is. |
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One likes to believe
In the freedom of music But glittering prizes And endless Compromises Shatter the illusion Of integrity |
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NetsNJFan ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() Joined: April 12 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 3047 |
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the above description is most prog |
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Ivan_Melgar_M ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 27 2004 Location: Peru Status: Offline Points: 19557 |
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I can't guess what goes inside a Punk head because I don't listen Punk, this genre started as anti Prog' mostly (I can't understand how something can base his existence in being anti anything), so they probably hate all the genre. But honestly, I couldn't care less about what they love or hate. Iván
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The Miracle ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() Joined: May 29 2005 Location: hell Status: Offline Points: 28427 |
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Yes and Genesis. During that fight wth the stinky TalkPunk forum, I was reading through anti-prog posts and the most used examples of prog were Yes and Genesis. If you read these articles (if you haven't yet) you wll see they hate Yes and Genesis the most. http://www.punk77.co.uk/punkhistory/whendinosaursromaedtheea rth.htm |
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Syzygy ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: December 16 2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 7142 |
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I'm not sure about the CD reissue, but the original vinyl version of the double album compilation Cannibalism had a sleevenote by Pete Shelley, who said that he would not have started playing guitar were it not for Michael Karoli and Marc Bolan. |
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'Like so many of you
I've got my doubts about how much to contribute to the already rich among us...' Robert Wyatt, Gloria Gloom |
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matti meikäläin ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: August 10 2005 Status: Offline Points: 220 |
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answer is elp. infact peter hammil is one of the
influences to johnny rotten ( sex pistols) so van der graaf generator
cant take all of the hate
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