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XTChuck 
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Posted: December 29 2005 at 14:38 |
This great Yes album received some unwarranted bad reviews upon its release. Even today, it is possibly the most underrated recording by the group and I just CAN'T figure out why. Does anyone but me think it's a masterpiece?
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Topographic Oce
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Posted: December 29 2005 at 14:44 |
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Sorry but no,been a Yes fan for 30+ years but Tormato was just a good album and nowhere near the brilliance of fragile,Close To the Edge and The Yes Album.
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Posted: December 29 2005 at 15:05 |
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A very good album I thinlk...not a masterpiece though, you need more from an album to be a masterpiece.
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salmacis
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Posted: December 29 2005 at 15:14 |
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To me, it's probably their weakest album (alongside 'Union), and was certainly something of a blip as all of Yes' other albums from their debut up until 'Union' were excellent, prog or not. 'Tormato' had quite a few weak songs in my opinion, and Rick Wakeman's keyboard sounds are sometimes dreadful. A long way away from a masterpiece to these ears...
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buckethead
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Posted: December 29 2005 at 16:27 |
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i like this album a lot, although it can't keep up with their best
efforts (ctte, fragile, relayer, yes album). onward, don't kill the
whale or release, release are good songs and overall, it's probably one
of the easier yes records to listen to, which is not necessarly a bad
thing.
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Moogtron III
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Posted: December 29 2005 at 16:34 |
 Snow Dog wrote:
A very good album I thinlk...not a masterpiece though, you need more from an album to be a masterpiece. |
I agree 100% !
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Posted: December 29 2005 at 16:43 |
Moogtron III wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
A very good album I thinlk...not a masterpiece though, you need more from an album to be a masterpiece. |
I agree 100% ! |
Me too, it's good but not that good. It does come in for a lot of
criticism, some of it unwarranted, some of it because of the inclusion
of "Circus of Heaven" and "Don't kill the whale". I like "Release,
Release" and "Silent Wings of Freedom" but on the whole it doesn't
match up to the lofty standards set by its predecessor.
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bluetailfly
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Posted: December 29 2005 at 16:47 |
Definitly not a masterpiece, though I think some of the songs begin to grow on you a bit after your initial disappointment.
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King of Loss
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Posted: December 29 2005 at 16:52 |
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Tormato is an ok album, but nothing compared to Close to the Edge or even Going for the One.
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XTChuck
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Posted: December 29 2005 at 17:22 |
salmacis wrote:
To me, it's probably their weakest album (alongside 'Union), and was certainly something of a blip as all of Yes' other albums from their debut up until 'Union' were excellent, prog or not. 'Tormato' had quite a few weak songs in my opinion, and Rick Wakeman's keyboard sounds are sometimes dreadful. A long way away from a masterpiece to these ears... |
Yes, one of the biggest complaints I've often heard about the album is Wakeman's cheesy keyboard sounds and I guess I'm not in agreement with that. To me, the keyboards were different sounding but they are not bad.....just different.
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cobb
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Posted: December 29 2005 at 18:12 |
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Tormato, for me, marked the end of the classic Yes era. The band never recovered after this. The band as a whole seemed to have lost their edge on their compositional skills. Was it because Anderson had success with Olias as a solo project? But this can't be the case as Olias was an excellent composition (think of how good this would have been if he would have allowed it to be a Yes album). Anderson's further solo projects were also weak and watered down compared to Olias. Something happened to the band between 77 and 78, the creative spark was suddenly gone. Perhaps there were continual clashes between Jon and Rick that made it impossible to work as a cohesive unit. So, to me at least, Tormato marks a very sad period in the career of Yes.
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Tommy
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Posted: December 29 2005 at 18:18 |
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I really liked this album. I play it as often as those classic's that they recorded prior. Some classic songs on it just a different direction. **** star rating from me!
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Posted: December 29 2005 at 18:43 |
For me "Tormato" have two great songs: Onward & Circus of Heaven. Other two nice songs: Don't Kill the Whale & Madrigal. (perceive: the short songs). The other tracks, well, like others said, cheesy keyboards solos, with overdose of synths and an apathic Steve Howe (where are the great guitar touches of the past?).  I even prefer "Drama"... or "Union"... 
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Posted: December 29 2005 at 19:01 |
It's a pretty good album worth having but not quite up with their best works.
I particularly like Madrigal and On the Silent Wings of freedom.Some of the other tracks are reasonable pop but don't have quite the majesty of the epics
Circus of heaven really spoils the album. Just like the beatles refused to let Yoko Ono sing on a Beatles album that kid should have been stopped by Yes
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ANDREW
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Posted: December 29 2005 at 20:19 |
Not a masterpiece but a good YES album.
P.S. DRAMA is much better IMO.
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Jared
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Posted: December 30 2005 at 06:45 |
not a masterpiece, but very enjoyable.... 3.5/5 probably... 
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Posted: December 30 2005 at 19:55 |
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Certainly not their best effort, and by no means a masterpiece. Doesn't stand up next to CTTE, Fragile & The Yes Album IMO.
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Posted: December 30 2005 at 22:24 |
salmacis wrote:
To me, it's probably their weakest album (alongside
'Union), and was certainly something of a blip as all of Yes' other
albums from their debut up until 'Union' were excellent, prog or
not. 'Tormato' had quite a few weak songs in my opinion, and
Rick Wakeman's keyboard sounds are sometimes dreadful. A long way
away from a masterpiece to these ears... |
actually I like the album, but you are SO right. Wakeman sounded
DREADFUL on that. Interesting songs though, shame Eddie Offord
wasn't around. Take out Wakeman's 'sound' and all the well documented
production problems, I think it could have been another in the long
string of GREAT Yes releases in the 70's. The streak breaker as
it was though.
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lovecraft
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Posted: December 31 2005 at 08:59 |
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I own no Yes albums later than Drama.
Twice I have bought Tormato and twice it has ended up on ebay...they really have just run out of ideas at this point.
And yes, Wakeman's work on this album is just cringeworthy...
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Posted: December 31 2005 at 09:38 |
Losendos wrote:
It's a pretty good album worth having but not quite up with their best works.
I particularly like Madrigal and On the Silent Wings of
freedom.Some of the other tracks are reasonable pop but don't have
quite the majesty of the epics
Circus of heaven really spoils the album. Just like the
beatles refused to let Yoko Ono sing on a Beatles album that kid should
have been stopped by Yes |
Yoko Ono did "sing" on a Beatles album (The White Album - Bungalow
Bill). Whether she should have been allowed to is a matter of opinion.
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