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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 10 2005 at 12:54
Marillion, for being fakers 
Epic.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 21 2006 at 11:40
I've just got a Renaissance album (Scheherazade And Other Stories) and I
can't get into it at all

I don't see the appeal of early Camel but I really liked their 1981 album
Nude.

I've only heard two Frank Zappa albums: Hot Rats which did nothing for
me, and We're Only In It For The Money which came across like an
unfunny joke.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 21 2006 at 11:57
guess there's only two to be named: one band I used to love: Pink Floyd and one I'd never get into: Dream Theatre and the whole progressive metal thing
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 21 2006 at 12:13

i have most of the albums in the PROG ARCHIVES top 100 review list, though the following bands have never or will ever appeal to me:

CAMEL  or any "canterbury" drippy hippy scene bands. music for elevators and supermarkets.Ouch

SOFT MACHINE  never really understood what was going on here at all!  a-b-c-d... etc. ??? Confused

VDGG "theme one" is a masterpiece to me, but not the albums. sorry guys, i  tried REALLY HARD to like these!Cry

MEATLOAF  just sounds like a mess, a caricature (non-prog/metal people like this guy for some reason!)Angry

MASTERMIND  i listened to all these albums and they just sound amateurishEmbarrassed

GENTLE GIANT  can't bear to listen to this group for a minuteDead

FRANK ZAPPA  "hot rats" is brilliant but the rest of these albums sound like somebody left the tape running and they're messing about!! brilliant musicianship nonetheless.Smile

so there you go - one man's meat is another man's poison! though i still believe there is no such thing as bad music, as there's always someone that will like it !Wink



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 21 2006 at 13:25

And the winner is......RUSH!!!!....tried, but I gave up trying to enjoy listening to that bloody witch screaming like a 2 years old girl.

Magma, but I recognise haven't done an important effort to get into their music, or maybe their music is too much for me!!

Dream Theatre, not a terrible band, but a highly overated one. There are many prog metal bands out there, like Threshold, who are far better than them , but I can still enjoy bits of their music.

 

 

 

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 21 2006 at 15:15
Originally posted by mystic fred mystic fred wrote:

i have most of the albums in the PROG ARCHIVES top 100 review list, though the following bands have never or will ever appeal to me:

CAMEL  or any "canterbury" drippy hippy scene bands. music for elevators and supermarkets.Ouch

SOFT MACHINE  never really understood what was going on here at all!  a-b-c-d... etc. ??? Confused



Camel aren't Canterbury (I question why you didn't include Soft Machine under your "Canterbury" umbrella) and Canterbury doesn't sound like music for supermarkets. I think you're referring to John Tesh or Kenny G, maybe even Yanni and the Eagles, but surely no Canterbury artists. I wish my supermarket would play Soft Machine or Gong!

I just wonder how many Canterbury albums and artists you've actually heard.  Surely, some musicians like Karl Jenkins, have done new age I guess you could consider elevator music, but his solo career isn't Prog, if anything Canterbury-related, only because he was involved in Soft Machine (and Nucles before that).


"Art is not imitation, nor is it something manufactured according to the wishes of instinct or good taste. It is a process of expression."

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 23 2006 at 03:12
I don't dig fusion and basically all improvisation-based music, no matter how shiny and technically gifted the people involved in are.

And I don't like the mere show of technical ability as well (the main defendant here is Mr. Keith Emerson...so sweet when restrained into canonic boundaries - take the solos in From the beginning for instance, or the wonderful rendition of Canario - but so annoying and boring when he goes wild with Hammond-riding or produces nauseating caterwauls with that wicked "Electric clavinet")

Talking about bands, I am somehow cold towards Soft Machine, Colosseum, Mahavishnu and the like.
I find Magma interesting but I can't stand Can...
I love bands like Angra, Dream Theater, Threshold, Ayreon, but I really can't get into Shadow Gallery...they simply have NO appeal on me at all. I cannot remember one single song of all their works!
That said, I very much appreciated Mike Baker's rendition of "Father" in Ayreon's Day 16: Loser
A flower?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 23 2006 at 04:19

Some disappointing records

Soft Machinine: Two (their first is much better)

Amon Düül 2: Yeti (Tanz der Lemminge is much better, and Wolf City is positively great)

ELP: Works vol. 1

Roger Waters: Radio KAOS, The Wall Live in Berlin

Pink Floyd: Delicate Sound of Thunder

Jethro Tull: A Passion Play, Warchild, Too Old to Rock'n Roll Too Young to Die

Yes: Tormato, Drama

Genesis: Abacab (Duke isn't much to write home about either, though I like "Genesis")

Rush: 2112 (Awful! Cheesy metal with annoying, over the top, vocals. The title epic does not deserve to be mentioned in the same breath as Echoes, Supper's Ready, Close to the Edge, Thick as a Brick, A Plague of Lighthouse Keepers, Shine On You Crazy Diamond or Tarkus.  

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 23 2006 at 05:00

Originally posted by jonali jonali wrote:

Rush: 2112 (Awful! Cheesy metal with annoying, over the top, vocals. The title epic does not deserve to be mentioned in the same breath as Echoes, Supper's Ready, Close to the Edge, Thick as a Brick, A Plague of Lighthouse Keepers, Shine On You Crazy Diamond or Tarkus.  

    


Jesus never managed to figure out the theremin either
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 23 2006 at 07:03

The Great Nothing is quite an adequate title for that Spock's Beard epic. It's not bad but it does very little to me.

Bands with lots of growling are not my cup of tea.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 23 2006 at 07:05
Originally posted by John Gargo John Gargo wrote:

For good prog-metal, see: Psychotic Waltz, Pain of Salvation, Fates Warning etc. etc.

I second to that!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 23 2006 at 09:09
Originally posted by Norbert Norbert wrote:

The Great Nothing is quite an adequate title for that Spock's Beard epic. It's not bad but it does very little to me.
Bands with lots of growling are not my cup of tea.


I agree!
Ditto for The healing colors of sound

The only good suites by Spock's Beard are The Water and most of all A flash before my eyes
A flower?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 23 2006 at 09:33
Originally posted by scrivener scrivener wrote:

Aw man...I just love Styx.  Sure, if I heard them for the first time NOW, I'd think they were lame, but I heard them for the first time when I was in elementary school and they were with me thoughout high school, and I still have a soft spot for them.  They're probably my second-favorite group.

These aren't least favorites, but here are some major, major, major disappointments:  Rush's Counterparts, Yes's Big Generator, Kansas's Power.

Least favorite bands?  James LaBrie solo is definitely up there. 

I LOVE Counterparts

even though it wasnt their most prog album

Nobodys Hero is a fantastic lyric

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 23 2006 at 09:41

Ain Soph

 These Japanese jazz-fusionists are the undisputed kings of boredom. 95% of their discography is a total yawn-inducing mess (particularly the later albums). But a lot of jazz fusion is really dull anyway.

Dark Side of the Moon never did anything for me either - I disliked it even when I was an unassuming classic rock fan .

Oh, and Power Metal  

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 23 2006 at 16:19
Ah, prog bands I DON'T like?

Well, let's see...

1. Post-Gabriel Genesis(everything was great, but after "The Lamb",
things
went downhill)
2. ELP after Brain Salad Surgery-Just one song on Love Beach almost
made me lose my cookies, and I had to listen to Close To The Edge in
order to get my bearings back.
3. Most raga-rock I have a hard time listening to, some Krautrock really
drives me nuts(although I like Faust and Kraftwerk), and most jazz fusion
puts me to sleep.
4. Apologies to those who like it, but I really don't like neo-progressive
rock. It's just whiny and dull, in my opinion.
5. Don't like Gentle Giant too much either. I feel like I'm not getting the
experience I usually get out of symphonic prog.
6. post-Waters, pre-Division Bell Pink Floyd. In other words: A Momentary
Lapse of Reason. Dull and boring.
7. Prog metal is a mixed bag for me. I kinda like Tool.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 23 2006 at 16:21
of course, every man to his own. Just because i hate it, other people may like
it a lot.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 23 2006 at 19:48
I've always had an intense dislike for Tangerine Dream's Rockoon.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 23 2006 at 19:59
I could never get into ELP...they don't do much for me for some reason.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 23 2006 at 20:05
It's stranege how I like everything that people mentioned here that's prog.

My list

  • ALL PUNK
  • All rap/hip hop
  • All nu metal
  • All teen pop
  • Kiss
  • Spastic Ink
  • Accept
  • Cannibal Corpse
  • ELO (Electric Light Orchestra)
  • PF's The Wall (LOVE the rest)
  • Eagles
  • Abba
  • Elvis
There's more of course, I'm generally skeptic towards non-prog stuff.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 23 2006 at 20:18

I couldn´t tolerate Yes (the vocals mainly), but they are growing on me lately and I actually am getting into them more.

For those who can´t get into Dream Theater, a good idea is to start with Falling into Infinity. That is probably theior most proggish release.(And the least liked by fans of Dream Theater)LOL

For those who have problems with Spock´s Beard, I suggest Octane.

As for me I just can´t get into ELP. Hoedown sounds like a bloody electric barn-dance.

 

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