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Progger
Forum Senior Member Joined: April 26 2005 Status: Offline Points: 1188 |
Posted: March 26 2006 at 10:27 |
Ther isn't in fact a big five, only a big four:
wHETHER YOU LIKE THOSE BANDS OR NOT, WHEN HISTORY TALKS ABOUT THE PROGRESSIVE ROCK MOVEMENT THOSE ARE THE BANDS THAT WILL BE TALKED ABOUT MORE THAN ANY OTHERS. THOSE WERE THE GIANTS! |
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Paulieg
Forum Senior Member Joined: June 18 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 934 |
Posted: March 26 2006 at 10:32 |
Couldn't do just five since I can't leave Genesis out. Edited by Paulieg |
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Tony Fisher
Prog Reviewer Joined: April 30 2005 Location: England Status: Offline Points: 967 |
Posted: March 26 2006 at 11:08 |
OK, let's look at the contenders for the big 5:
Genesis: unarguable; look at the ratings and the sales. YES Yes: Likewise! YES VDGG: their sales were never up with the big boys although they have lasted a long time. They haven't really gone beyond a cult following. NO. ELP: for a while (3/4 years) they were huge and they sold shedloads of albums, but they faded quickly. On balance, just YES Jethro Tull: in every sense, sales, ratings, acclaim, longevity, they qualify. YES Pink Floyd: Sales alone get them in, but they qualify in all respects. Live 8 proved it. YES Gentle Giant: They never sold shed loads of albums and were never critically acclaimed (largely because they refused to pander to the whims of the critics!) but they had a huge cult following. Didn't last long enough, though. NO Rush: Huge sales, great longevity, some critical acclaim. The only trouble is, whatever we think, they don't consider themselves prog! Great hard rock band but big 5 prog? NO King Crimson: arguably the creators of the genre, they have lasted and sold steadily throughout. YES Camel: came a couple of years after the rest when prog was becoming unfashionable. Still made it regularly into the charts, were critically acclaimed and have lasted longer than almost anyone else with consistent quality. Look at the ratings. YES Dream Theater: They would qualify as new boys in terms of volumes of sales, but again, they don't like the prog label. (Petrucci visited a Sound Control store last year and, when asked if he thought their success meant prog was back, he said "we're metal, not prog".) NO So I'm up s**t creek since 7 qualify. So it's a big 7: Genesis Yes Pink Floyd Jethro Tull King Crimson Camel ELP Rush would qualify if they themselves were happy with the prog label, as would Dream Theater. Gentle Giant are amongst my favourites and would boot out Crimson in my own list. VDGG don't come close on any criterion. |
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cuncuna
Forum Senior Member Joined: March 29 2005 Location: Chile Status: Offline Points: 4318 |
Posted: March 26 2006 at 11:29 |
Nobody has ever told me anything about that big 5 thing... but I agree with anyone who says "Pink Floyd, Genesis, Yes, King Crimson, ELP". I think they are the most popular ones. So much as the way they are mentioned (oh, the shame...) in that horrendous "Iluvator" cover... I'll throu in a QUEEN mention... |
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GPFR
Forum Senior Member Joined: August 05 2005 Status: Offline Points: 760 |
Posted: March 26 2006 at 11:34 |
Pink Floyd, Genesis, King Crimson, Rush, ELP
But thats just me. |
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richardh
Prog Reviewer Joined: February 18 2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 26369 |
Posted: March 26 2006 at 13:08 |
Never heard of a 'Big Five' but the 'Big Six' is: Yes ELP Genesis Pink Floyd King Crimson Jethro Tull (anyone including Gentle Giant or Camel is having a laugh..even though they were good bands) |
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ANDREW
Forum Senior Member Joined: November 21 2005 Location: Italy Status: Offline Points: 3064 |
Posted: March 26 2006 at 14:07 |
Italian Prog Bands (TOP 5):
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Hemispheres
Forum Senior Member Joined: December 22 2004 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 533 |
Posted: March 26 2006 at 14:24 |
agreed even though only 2 of those bands would be in my top 6 (King Crimson,Genesis) there the six most popular and influental Edited by Hemispheres |
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ummagumma08
Forum Senior Member Joined: May 06 2004 Location: Denmark Status: Offline Points: 280 |
Posted: March 26 2006 at 14:24 |
I've always heard of a big 6 In the ideal world:
Reality: Probably:
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video vertigo
Forum Senior Member Joined: September 17 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 1930 |
Posted: March 26 2006 at 16:17 |
um I think Rush is in the big anything.
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Dr Know
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Posted: March 26 2006 at 17:11 |
It´s a bit strange that the big 6 are all British, there´s a big world out there.
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clairvoyant
Forum Groupie Joined: February 26 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 68 |
Posted: March 26 2006 at 18:44 |
I'd say:
Genesis, Yes, Pink Floyd, King Crimson easily. Then I'd go with Rush. |
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tremulant
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Posted: March 27 2006 at 03:35 |
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Prog-jester
Prog Reviewer Joined: June 05 2005 Location: Love Beach Status: Offline Points: 5806 |
Posted: March 27 2006 at 06:16 |
Big 5 from Big 10? That's easy:
1.Genesis 2.King Crimson 3.Camel 4.Pink Floyd Well...not that easy...only 4 |
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Timsan
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Posted: March 27 2006 at 06:27 |
the best of prog is: Genesis king crimson Yes Pink Floyd Jethro tull Mars volta and the rest of prog is more or less not as interesting!
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Joolz
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Posted: March 27 2006 at 08:00 |
Nearly - greatness is something that transcends its own sphere of activity, eg how much of the world has heard of Gentle Giant, Camel or Mars Volta etc? However good WE believe them to be, they have no voice in the big wide world. A large percentage of people on the planet is familiar with the names Yes/Genesis/Pink Floyd/ELP. King Crimson's reputation will probably grow stronger in the future as more of the outside world appreciates their place in all this. |
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cuncuna
Forum Senior Member Joined: March 29 2005 Location: Chile Status: Offline Points: 4318 |
Posted: March 27 2006 at 11:23 |
I think that the concept is related to "popular; most probable to be recognized / known by the common average standard one size mass produced person". As for innovation, creation, influence... well, we could talk about that forever... I'll say it just once "THE RESIDENTS!!!" "BRUCE HAACK!!!" "SILVER APPLES!!!"
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Legoman
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Posted: March 27 2006 at 12:33 |
1) Pink Floyd
2) Jethro Tull 3) Genesis 4) Gentle Giant 5) Camel Sorry Yes and ELP. You didn't make the cut. |
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Blacksword
Prog Reviewer Joined: June 22 2004 Location: England Status: Offline Points: 16130 |
Posted: March 27 2006 at 13:05 |
Yes, they are the BIG six, in terms of popularity, record sales etc.. Gentle Giant, Camel, VDGG etc are second division in terms of their popularity. Three of the above BIG bands would be in my personal top 5. VDGG and Renaissance would make up MY five! |
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ANDREW
Forum Senior Member Joined: November 21 2005 Location: Italy Status: Offline Points: 3064 |
Posted: March 27 2006 at 14:20 |
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