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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 28 2006 at 10:25
Wapassou was a very good band and should have a place , Xaal is one of the best examples progressive fusion bands during the 90's.  For some reason(Zeuhl categorization?) french progressive music is the redheaded stepchild of the archives.Lamp
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 28 2006 at 09:34
Originally posted by Ghost Rider Ghost Rider wrote:

I checked both GEPR and ProgGnosis, and it seems that "Salammbo" is indeed about the Carthaginian princess who is the protagonist of Flaubert's novel of the same title. It's a read that every proghead should love.... Very decadent, quite a lot of violence and some implied sex! And the album cover has some artwork by Gustave Doré... Uhmm... You've really made me curious, you know!Wink
 
 
I am about to make your curiosity climb the walls of your office .. After one listen, this Sallambo album sounds fairly Italian-styled symphonic prog
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 28 2006 at 08:34
I checked both GEPR and ProgGnosis, and it seems that "Salammbo" is indeed about the Carthaginian princess who is the protagonist of Flaubert's novel of the same title. It's a read that every proghead should love.... Very decadent, quite a lot of violence and some implied sex! And the album cover has some artwork by Gustave Doré... Uhmm... You've really made me curious, you know!Wink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 28 2006 at 08:08
Out of those two bands I know only Wapassou - I have their "Messe En Re mineur" and find it to be an excellent album.
 
Xaal sound very interesting from the description above.
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 28 2006 at 07:37
 
here is what GEPR has to say about those two
 
 
Wapassou [France]

Wapassou (75),

Messe En re Mineur (76),
Sallambo (77), >>> it is about the Phoenician Queen I think, no idea that Flaubert wrote about her or notWink
Ludwig (78),
Genuine (80),
Orchestra 2001-Le Lac D'Argent (86)

French progressive rock band with instrumentation oriented around a keyboard/ violin/guitar/drums (in that order of prominence) setup. They play what is often described as a spacy-progressive rock, and have to date released six albums, including one with the aid of an orchestra. Their best is probably Messe En Re Mineur, which is a single 40 min. track on two sides of an LP.

Sort of a chamber progressive band, who's early albums featured no percussion and were sort of like a more melodic version of Univers Zero (albeit quite a bit earlier.) Their best is supposed to be Messe En Re Mineur Since this is the only one I have, I haven't been in a rush to get the rest. Can be quite mesmerizing at times, though.

Interesting French symphonic progressive with lots of violin. Most feature side-long compositions, and a very strong classical influence (Bach, etc.) The band consists of Freddy Brua (keyboards), Jacques Lichti (violin) and Karen Nickerl (Guitars). Only the last album features a drummer. Some vocals on the first album, but the rest are nearly all instrumental. Their first album is different from the rest, with sort of an Art Zoyd-ish feel, but very substandard. The last ..Lac D'Argent is a much more polished album with an instrumental pop feel, beautiful stuff, but very different than the others. Best places to start are Messe En Re Mineur or Ludwig.

I have their self-titled first album from 1975. Essentially, the band consists of keyboards, violin, and female vocals in French. Various guest musicians contribute occasional oboe, flute, or other instruments. Due to the lack of drums and bass, and the prominence of the violin, the band has a dreamy "chamber ensemble" feel. If the writing were a bit more inspired they might have been an excellent band. Unfortunately, the music fails to be very involving. Messe En Re Mineur is said to be their best so I'd look there first.

 
 
 
Xaal [France]

Discography
On The Way (91, aka En Chemin)
Seconde Ere (93)
French instrumental fusion band with a strong link to the Magma sound, but occasionally reminding of Shylock, Crimson, and other bands on the euro- fusion-funk axis. They are a three piece (4 Piece on the first album) of guitars, bass and drums, with some guesting by Magma's recent horn section. The first album has five long tracks that tend to ramble in self indulgence a little (hey, what's wrong with that?), while the second has a much more assertive sound, with very strong rhythms, ripping guitar, mid-length tracks, and a more directed melodic approach. Outstanding.
Sort of mild progressive fusion in the style of Crimson's Red or Lark's Tongues. On the Way is all instrumental and I usually wished they would open up a little more and lose control. Their sound has a kind of sameness that wears thin after 60 minutes.
Xaal are a French band who play a brand of progressive rock verging on fusion, that compares well with contemporaries Minimum Vital, Edhels, and the like. The music on On the Way is all-instrumental, and, perhaps a bit more guitar-dominant than the two bands named. The core line-up does not include a keyboardist, but a guest player is listed, along with a couple of others who make occasional trumpet and sax contributions. The performance is pretty good and energetic, and, if you enjoy the "French instrumental progressive' sound, this should be a worthwhile disc.
Excellent French fusion trio consisting of drums, bass, and guitar/guitar synth. On the Way in a conceptual instrumental album that brings to mind French fusion bands such as Zao and Weidorje, and perhaps a bit of Brand X. Songs range from four to eleven minutes in length and serve as showcases for some tight interplay between these guys. I've had the CD only a short time but I have grown to like it a great deal. Excellent and recommended progressive fusion from the current progressive scene.
On the Way forges ahead into the French "zeuhl" music. Based largely on pioneers such as Magma and Univers Zero, Xaal's music has the rhythmic proficiency of both the aforementioned bands, and even some horn guest spots from former Magma-ites. But rather than re-live old glories, Xaal takes the sound into new directions. Their melodies are based around a heavy, riffing guitar and occasional keyboard backdrops. Occasionally they remind me of Voivod! Led by busy drumming and an active bass, the music contains the weirdness, inconsistencies, and drive that early Magma had, without the repetition that turns many people off that band. The creative level here is something right out of the seventies and hopefully this will inspire other nineties prog bands to become more self-indulgent. This was, IMHO, one of the strongest new releases in 1992. Highly recommended.
For the first ten listenings I couldn't decide how much I liked On the Way, but after another ten, it promised to become one of my favourites. This album has more of a spark of creative originality than Änglagård, although it's less immediately impressive. It's all instrumental (except for one mad groan), and fairly sparse-sounding because there are few keyboards. It has more variation than Änglagård, and has that certain quality which I can't really describe, which makes an album suitable for continual repeated listening without getting boring.
French band whose debut was more than welcome for exhausted classic prog sound after Time finally overcame senseless, vacuous and no doubt submissive Eighties. Ambitious mix of classic French prog, zeuhl and fusion has proven solid and substantial despite not the best sound-cloth. Esp. guitar was constantly wheezing. Melodies and arrangements are effective and are able to echo in one's mind for quite a time. Interesting enough, I traced some atmospheres which was to find in 1997, on Voivod's Phobos, with only slightly different effect. I also traced a riff similar of Ozzy era Black Sabbath, too well-known to me (after having chance to hear plenty of their copycats) to please me. Anyhow, sufficiently efficient and much better than Änglagård whose debut provided me another disappointing revelation. Seconde Ere is tighter. Production is far better than on debut. Guitar of Jad Ayache is powerful and loud, bass is throbbing somewhere near while drums push altogether in a very decisive way. Band managed to maintain all their characteristics. One is to hear instrumentally full-grown mix of Present, Magma, King Crimson, VDGG and bands' unusual talent for making haunting melodies and rich themes which summon reminiscences of ancient times (era Aries and beyond), but which can not abandon tense atmospheres. As on En Chemin, a trumpet and two saxes are beside. Trumpet and alto sax can be heard on excellent "Rah", while soprano sax veawes additional melodies on strongly middle-Eastern inspired 10+' "Al Abad". Overall, while quite Present-ish, they remind me of Tiemko's L'Ocean a bit. Musea had cut prices on both mentioned releases (from the previous sentence), and if you're interested, don't dither to grab 'em both. Quite good and quite recommended. -- Nenad Kobal

 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 28 2006 at 06:26
Is that second record you mentioned inspired by Flaubert's "Salammbo" novel? That would be interesting, as that novel is one of my all-time favourites...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 28 2006 at 06:19
Xaal appears to be in the tradition of KC influenced french band that sterted with Carpe Diem , then Shylock and nowadays with Nebelnest. Can be classified as Zeuhl, too
 
 
Wapassou however is more difficult to understand/describe. I heard their Salammboo record and it is sometimes close to an opera.
 
 
Anybody heard of these two groups?


Edited by Sean Trane - July 20 2006 at 05:57
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