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Frasse ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November 22 2004 Location: Sweden Status: Offline Points: 758 |
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No one mentioned Supper's Ready yet?
Gabriel sings about Narcissus and Pythagoras. |
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BebieM ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November 01 2004 Location: Germany Status: Offline Points: 854 |
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Pythagoras is not really Mythology, is he?
![]() about Styx, are you sure this isn't Roman Mythology? As far as I know it's a river in the underworld, which appears in the Aeneis by Vergil who was a Roman. Is there any appearance in Greek Mythology too? |
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BaldFriede ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: June 02 2005 Location: Germany Status: Offline Points: 10266 |
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Lots of bands took their names from Greek mythology: Atlas, Medea,
Icarus and Ikarus (different spellings of the same name), Daedalus and
Dedalus (see Icarus), Midas, Minotaurus, Hamadryad, Iris, Priam, Orion,
Orpheo (variation of Orpheus), Tantalus. To name a few.
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BaldJean ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: May 28 2005 Location: Germany Status: Offline Points: 10387 |
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let's not forget "The Three Fates" (Cllotho, Lachesis, Atropos) by ELP
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![]() A shot of me as High Priestess of Gaia during our fall festival. Ceterum censeo principiis obsta |
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Joolz ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: March 24 2006 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 1377 |
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The Romans borrowed hugely from the Greeks, in many cases simply changing names or shoe-horning an obscure Roman name onto an established classic Greek entity. The Styx came from Greece - it was one of the rivers of the underworld which was the abode of the god Hades. The Styx separated the underworld from the world of the living. The infamous Achilles Heel came about because the boy Achilles was dipped into the Styx to give him immortality, but the heel was missed out, hence it became his week spot. Lesson over .... ![]() |
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Stars Die ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: April 08 2006 Location: Sweden Status: Offline Points: 141 |
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Du Skojar om att jag Skojar men jag skojar inte alls
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Fassbinder ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: May 27 2006 Location: My world Status: Offline Points: 3497 |
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A propos Achilles: "Achilles Last Stand" by Led Zeppelin... (though I don't really know what this song is about...)
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Dragon Phoenix ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: August 31 2004 Status: Offline Points: 1475 |
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There is also the song Orpheus by David Sylvian.
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Blog this:
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chopper ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: July 13 2005 Location: Essex, UK Status: Offline Points: 20072 |
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Yes, it also mentions "the mighty arms of Atlas". I always thought this was about Led Zep going on tour ("it was an April morning when they told us we should go") but it could be about Plant and his wife going on holiday to Greece (or Plant and Page).
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BaldJean ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: May 28 2005 Location: Germany Status: Offline Points: 10387 |
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there were actually five rivers in the Greek Underworld: Styx (the river of hate), Acheron (the river of woe), Phlegethon (the river of fire), Cocytus (the river of wailing) and Lethe (the river of forgetfulness). Virgil mentions the Eridanos as river of the Underworld too in his Aeneid. and a little correction: Achilles was bathed in the waters of the Styx not for giving him immortality, but for giving him invulnerability. his mother Thetis forgot to dip the heel she held him by into the water too Edited by BaldJean - July 05 2006 at 08:01 |
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![]() A shot of me as High Priestess of Gaia during our fall festival. Ceterum censeo principiis obsta |
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Joolz ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: March 24 2006 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 1377 |
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"According to some versions, Styx had miraculous powers and could make someone immortal. Achilles may have been dipped in it in his childhood, acquiring invulnerability, with exception of his heel, which was held by his mother in order to submerge him." [from well known encyclopedia] In other words, Thetis attempted to make him immortal so that he was invulnerable. |
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Lex C ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: February 11 2006 Status: Offline Points: 246 |
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haha Latin nerds, Blind Guardian has a 14 minute long epic on the trojan war.
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Raff ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: July 29 2005 Location: None Status: Offline Points: 24440 |
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It's not about anything mythological, the title being largely metaphorical for some life experience. Fantastic song, though - and very proggy! ![]() |
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Raff ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: July 29 2005 Location: None Status: Offline Points: 24440 |
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There are indeed references to Norse mythology ("Valkyrie maidens cry/ on the cold wind to Valhalla), but the song is mostly about the search for success. BTW, it's one of my favourite JT songs. |
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the icon of sin ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 29 2005 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 588 |
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The only Therion albums I have are Sirius B and Lemuria, but they have a few on Greek myths. "Typhon" (on the monster born from Tartarus and Gaia), "Dark Venus Persephone" (comparing Hades' temporary partner to Venus/Aphrodite) and "An Arrow From The Sun" (about Apollo and Olympia). The last song of Sirius B is called "Feuer Overture/Prometheus Entfesselt" and, although written in German (?) has references to Zeus, Pandora and Herakles, as well the Titan.
And you've got to love Symphony X's "The Odyssey".
EDIT: Also Nick Cave's "Lyre Of Orpheus". But I suppose it's not that prog.
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Frasse ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November 22 2004 Location: Sweden Status: Offline Points: 758 |
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Both. Pythagoras was a real-life mathematican and philosopher of ancient greece. According to myth he is also the inventor of music. I think that Gabriel has the later in mind when he sings that Pythagoras writes, in blood, the lyrics of a brand new tune. |
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Alucard ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: September 10 2004 Location: France Status: Offline Points: 3888 |
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Wishbone Ash used some references to Greek mythology in their early records : 'Phoenix', 'Argus'(+ the cover), 'Persephone'.
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Tadpoles keep screaming in my ear
"Hey there! Rotter's Club! Explain the meaning of this song and share it" |
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Forgotten Son ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: March 13 2005 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 1356 |
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The Greek Neo-Prog band La Tulipe Noire's latest album, Nostimon Hemar, is a concept album based on ancient Greek mythology:
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BaldJean ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: May 28 2005 Location: Germany Status: Offline Points: 10387 |
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that's by far not the same; Achilles would still have had to undergo an aging process and finally diie. for the ancient Greek immortality diid not automatically mean eternal youth, as the story of the Goddess Eos and her human lover Tithonios shows. she begged Zeus for immortality for her lover, which was granted, but forgot to beg for eternal youth too, so Tithonios grew older and older and weaker and weaker but could not die, until Zeus finally had pity on him and turned him into a grasshopper Edited by BaldJean - July 05 2006 at 12:43 |
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aapatsos ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: November 11 2005 Location: Manchester, UK Status: Offline Points: 9226 |
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where did u learn all that ? they dont teach us such things in Greek schools...
![]() BTW Achilles is not a mythical character, he indeed existed... Edited by aapatsos - July 05 2006 at 14:32 |
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