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Raff 
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 Posted: September 26 2006 at 17:08 |
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I'd say Belew, at least for post-1980 KC. Wetton and Bruford would come immediately afterwards.
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Kleynan
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Posted: September 26 2006 at 17:13 |
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I'm a little surprised that Bruford is winning...
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You've just had a heavy session of electroshock therapy, and you're more relaxed than you've been in weeks.
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Benjamin_Breeg
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Posted: September 26 2006 at 17:19 |
Mr. Bruford is a moth****ing musician 
Edited by Benjamin_Breeg - September 26 2006 at 17:19
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chamberry
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Posted: September 26 2006 at 17:28 |
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Where's the Peter Sinfield love?
After Fripp and Sinfield, Belew is the third most important member of the band.
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el böthy
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Posted: September 26 2006 at 18:48 |
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It depends on the period...but overall, I guess Bruford followed by Sinfield
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"You want me to play what, Robert?"
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Harry Hood
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Posted: September 26 2006 at 19:16 |
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At this point, Belew has become just has important to the band as Fripp. He plays most of the solos, writes all the lyrics, helps write most of the music. Without Belew, there wouldn't be a KC. However, I can see some form of the band continuing without Fripp (though they may call themselves something else simply out of respect).
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Cygnus X-2
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Posted: September 26 2006 at 19:17 |
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Either Bruford or Belew... I'm leaning towards Adrian more because he's been a lasting influence on Fripp for the past 25 years and has been integral in the creation of modern King Crimson music.
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Bilek
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Posted: September 27 2006 at 04:59 |
strange that the real most important member (depending on the period, of course...) gets too litle mentions... IMHO without Sinfield there wouldn't be KC at all.
as for other periods, as much as I love Wetton's singing and bass playing, I don't think he should be as important as Bruford. Besides, he's the longest lasting member other than Fripp... wish he was still there (Mastelotto fills in his shoes very effectively, though...)
I'd go for Sinfield, 'cause his period was when KC was "the real" KC...
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Listen to Turkish psych/prog; you won't regret:
Baris Manco,Erkin Koray,Cem Karaca,Mogollar,3 Hürel,Selda,Edip Akbayram,Fikret Kizilok,Ersen (and Dadaslar) (but stick with the '70's, and 'early 80's!)
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Sean Trane
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Posted: September 27 2006 at 05:19 |
 Bilek wrote:
strange that the real most important member (depending on the period, of course...) gets too litle mentions... IMHO without Sinfield there wouldn't be KC at all.
I'd go for Sinfield, 'cause his period was when KC was "the real" KC... |
I'd second that.
But let's face it since 80, Belew is the most important KC member (although hardly my fave)
Bruford is also a good runner-up.
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let's just stay above the moral melee
prefer the sink to the gutter
keep our sand-castle virtues
content to be a doer
as well as a thinker,
prefer lifting our pen
rather than un-sheath our sword
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Norbert
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Posted: September 27 2006 at 07:38 |
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For latter day Crimson obviously Adrian Belew.
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MattiR
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Posted: September 27 2006 at 10:28 |
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Adrian Belew
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Syzygy
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Posted: September 27 2006 at 14:59 |
And my vote goes to Jamie Muir. Although he was only in the band for a few months, both Fripp and Bruford have acknowledged the enormous influence he had on not just their playing but their whole appraoch to music, and it was after he joined that KC became a truly great improvising band. Without him post 1973 KC would have been a very different beast, if it had existed at all.
Otherwise Bruford or Belew, although I'm more inclined to pick Bruford because of his crucial role in the 73 - 75 line up, the 80s incarnation and the double trio. Listen to The Night Watch, Absent Lovers and Vroom Vroom for proof. Belew has obviously been essential to all KC line ups since the 80s, and has been Fripp's best musical sparring partner, but he's only been in 2 classic line ups as opposed to Bruford's presence in 3. Much as I like recent KC, especially TPTB, they've yet to equal the achievements of previous incarnations.
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'Like so many of you
I've got my doubts about how much to contribute
to the already rich among us...'
Robert Wyatt, Gloria Gloom
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Melomaniac
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Posted: September 27 2006 at 15:19 |
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I vote for Belew. Apparently Fripp might think so too, he's the only KC member to have been around for so damn long!!! Love his work on TPTB and Thrak. His voice sometimes remind me of John Lennon.
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"One likes to believe in the freedom of Music" - Neil Peart, The Spirit of Radio
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Syzygy
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Posted: September 27 2006 at 16:09 |
Melomaniac wrote:
I vote for Belew. Apparently Fripp might think so too, he's the only KC member to have been around for so damn long!!! Love his work on TPTB and Thrak. His voice sometimes remind me of John Lennon. |
Have you heard the version of Free As A Bird on Vroom Vroom? The resemblance is uncanny.
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'Like so many of you
I've got my doubts about how much to contribute
to the already rich among us...'
Robert Wyatt, Gloria Gloom
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Melomaniac
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Posted: September 27 2006 at 16:11 |
Syzygy wrote:
Melomaniac wrote:
I vote for Belew. Apparently Fripp might think so too, he's the only KC member to have been around for so damn long!!! Love his work on TPTB and Thrak. His voice sometimes remind me of John Lennon. |
Have you heard the version of Free As A Bird on Vroom Vroom? The resemblance is uncanny. |
No I did not. I'll try to hear it though !
So I am not the only one who thinks there is a resemblance then ?
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"One likes to believe in the freedom of Music" - Neil Peart, The Spirit of Radio
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Fassbinder
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Posted: September 27 2006 at 17:46 |
Melomaniac wrote:
Syzygy wrote:
Melomaniac wrote:
I vote for Belew. Apparently Fripp might think so too, he's the only KC member to have been around for so damn long!!! Love his work on TPTB and Thrak. His voice sometimes remind me of John Lennon. |
Have you heard the version of Free As A Bird on Vroom Vroom? The resemblance is uncanny. |
No I did not. I'll try to hear it though !
So I am not the only one who thinks there is a resemblance then ? |
No, you aren't. If I'm not mistaken, in one of the inner booklets to either Discipline or Beat or Three of a Perfect Pair there's an article saying he's got a Lennon-esque manner of singing, spmething like that.
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Arrrghus
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Posted: September 27 2006 at 17:50 |
Belew, followed by Sinfield, followed closely by Bruford, followed by me (I am of course John Wetton  ).
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chamberry
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Posted: September 27 2006 at 18:15 |
Sean Trane wrote:
Bilek wrote:
strange that the real most important member (depending on the period, of course...) gets too litle mentions... IMHO without Sinfield there wouldn't be KC at all.
I'd go for Sinfield, 'cause his period was when KC was "the real" KC... |
I'd second that.
But let's face it since 80, Belew is the most important KC member (although hardly my fave)
Bruford is also a good runner-up. |
I agree with both of you. Hence why I voted for Sinfield and if I could voted for a second place I would've voted for Belew. Both had a mayor impact in their sound, lyrics and writting department.
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soundsweird
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Posted: September 29 2006 at 00:16 |
Hmmm.... without Sinfield (who came up with the band's name), they would've been called....
Giles, Lake, Fripp & McDonald?
And that would've been the end of it......
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darkshade
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Posted: September 29 2006 at 01:31 |
bruford
belew is great, and i like his playing on later KC albums, but honestly, they gotta get a new singer. it was smart of Belew not to sing much on TPTB, since he may realize his vocals are not what the band needs. i still say Jon Anderson was the best vocalist KC had (even though he was a guest and not cause im a YES-fanboy, which im not)
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