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    Posted: August 11 2004 at 20:04
in no particular order

rick w - yes
rick w - pink floyd
ikey owens - the mars volta
patrick moraz - yes
jordan rudess - dream theater
kevin moore - dream theater
mike oldfield
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 11 2004 at 21:48

now thats a blatant overlook...

Keith Emerson

there's no one else near him...

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 11 2004 at 22:04

 

RICK WAKEMAN, KEITH EMERSON, KIT WATKINS (Happy the Man, post-Bardens Camel), PETER BARDENS, STEVE WALSH, JORDAN RUDESS, KEVIN MOORE, MARTIN ORFORD (IQ), both NOCENZI brothers (Banco del Mutuo Soccorso), PATRICK MORAZ, CHRISTOPHER BUZBY (Echolyn), TOMAS BODIN (The Flower Kings), HUGH BANTON (Van der Graaf Generator) 



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 11 2004 at 22:05
Originally posted by threefates threefates wrote:

now thats a blatant overlook...

Keith Emerson

there's no one else near him...

Emerson is extremely talented technically, no question, but is sometimes too mechanical (IMHO). (I'm not surprised you picked him though! I admire your loyalty and consistency!))

Although he is not known for his technical prowess, I think Neal Morse adds a lot of colour to the texture. And (most will diagree, so be it) but Tony Banks has ability and a creative, dramatic flare like none other. If technical prowess is the sole criterion then Wakeman, Jobson, Jürgen Fritz, Thomas Johnson, Jim Crichton, Patrick Moraz, should all be considered (Moraz shows passion at times as well).

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 11 2004 at 22:19

1.- Rick Wakeman and Keith Emerson are the best, but if I was creating a band wouldn't recruit them because ofv their huge egos. Great showmen and musicians.

2.- Par Lindh: Excelent keyboardist but only to play his music.

3.- Tony Banks: That's the man for a band, he sits behind his keyboards and doesn't worry about anything. The master of the Mellotron.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 11 2004 at 22:23

Originally posted by ivan_2068 ivan_2068 wrote:

Tony Banks: That's the man for a band, he sits behind his keyboards and doesn't worry about anything. The master of the Mellotron.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 11 2004 at 22:35
Thats actually funny... cause I've never heard anyone say that Keith was too technical before.  He's the one with no classical training really and most classical people tend to think he's sloppy, however I tend to think thats part of his charm. He's the greatest improvisor I've ever seen... and I guess its partly because of his insecurity... but along with Carl Palmer, he's got one of the most competitive natures I've ever seen... being on stage really brings out the wolf in him...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 11 2004 at 22:42
Quote Keith Emerson

there's no one else near him...

Sorry to have to say this, but your blind loyalty does you a disservice. Maybe if you decide one day to check out the world beyond that of the UK '70s proggers...

Rick Wakeman. Motoi Sakuraba. Chick Corea. Patrick Moraz. Four keyboard players, right there, that are "near" Keith...if not better.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 11 2004 at 23:03
Originally posted by dropForge dropForge wrote:

Sorry to have to say this, but your blind loyalty does you a disservice. Maybe if you decide one day to check out the world beyond that of the UK '70s proggers...

Rick Wakeman. Motoi Sakuraba. Chick Corea. Patrick Moraz. Four keyboard players, right there, that are "near" Keith...if not better.

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You have a way of assuming things you know nothing about.. I'm sure I'm very well versed on who else is out there... just haven't heard anything that would make me say they rate with Keith.. and I've seen Rick play a couple of times recently.. as well as Chick Corea.. and I've also seen Keith play... very recently (not in the 70s).. and IMHO... they ain't close.

So as a fellow ELP lover... maybe you should get out of Cal... and actually see a live show.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 11 2004 at 23:11
Cool, where's ELP playing? Haha...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 11 2004 at 23:19

For my money, I would say Tony Banks for his playing on the old Genesis records.  He created a great mood and atmosphere, always tasteful, almost never showing off.

Recently I've been all a buzz about the Nocenzi brothers in Banco.  How they compliment each other is joy to behold. 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 11 2004 at 23:27

Originally posted by dropForge dropForge wrote:

Cool, where's ELP playing? Haha...

We weren't talking about ELP were we??  And I had a nice conversation with Will Alexander last night... and Keith could very well be playing soon... as soon as I get an okay from Will.. I'll let you know!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 12 2004 at 05:32

Tony Banks is the best keyboard player in rock IMO. I once heard him say that he had a better feel for harmony than melody, but I think he has written some of the most memorable melodies in rock music, and some of the most moving prog rock songs. His playing on 'The lamb lies down on Broadway' is breathtaking and very original. I also love his work on 'Wind & Wuthering' and '..ATTWT' On the older albums, he used the mellotron to tremendous effect. The opening chords to 'Watcher of the skies' still make me tingle today. 'The Lamia' 'One for the Vine' and 'Burning rope' are three of my favourite songs of all time.

Pete Bardens and Rick Wright also

Not that keen on Rick Wakemen, great musician, but I was never really bowled over by the sounds he chose to work with. They seemed very thin and tinny a lot of the time. Played some great music, though. Cant deny that.

I used to love the sound of Mark Kellys playing in Marillion, but that was probaly because it reminded me of Tony Banks.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 12 2004 at 06:19

I love all the keyboard players mentioned above but the truth is that it's impossible to compare the players like that is an competition.Every player has his own way of playing that is unique and that is the quality that makes you a really good musician.Not all of the technically perfect musicians had a good feeling to playing in a band.Somebody is better for the solo,others for a band.Emerson and Wakeman are really one of the technically best musicians and improvisators and I really love them.And then Tony banks.Master of the mellotron.He is less technical and more melodic and harmonic.He is certainly man for the band.he is playing with such easiness and harmony that is just beautiful to listen to him.

And what about Tony Kaye.I really love him too.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 12 2004 at 07:27
Originally posted by threefates threefates wrote:

now thats a blatant overlook...

Keith Emerson

there's no one else near him..

Will you ever stop for voting for ELP  almost exclusively?  

I'd say.... Keith plays very loud and obese as it were. His keyboards constantly scream out as if trying to be bigger than the group, don't like that.

Now Rick Wakeman has this quality, he can stay in the background, often unnoticed unless one wonders where the keyboards have gone and discover them, and then does these great soloes as on Close... However, I don't think Wakeman is 'the greatest' as I don't know many keyboardists, it was merely to show Keith wasn't thát great.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 12 2004 at 07:55
JURGEN DOLLASE of Wallenstein!!!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 12 2004 at 08:13
Originally posted by ivan_2068 ivan_2068 wrote:

3.- Tony Banks: That's the man for a band, he sits behind his keyboards and doesn't worry about anything. The master of the Mellotron.

Iván

I almost never disagree with Ivan, but I have to say Mike Pinder is the mellotron grandmaster- while his playing was not at the level of many others, he was able to make that mellotron do things that nobody has ever equalled.

Can't argue about Banks, Emerson and Wakeman (especially their acoustic piano work). And Richard Wright has often surprised me with his ability and sound. Oh yeah, and I always liked Steve Walsh's playing too.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 12 2004 at 08:35

Tony Banks, without question or justification



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 12 2004 at 09:20

'In the cage' 'Suppers Ready' 'Cinema show' 'Firth of Fifth'

Further evidence, should it be needed that Tony Banks is top of the class.

In my humble opinion..

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 12 2004 at 09:47
Originally posted by JrKASperov JrKASperov wrote:

Will you ever stop for voting for ELP  almost exclusively?  

Ahh... No I won't

Originally posted by JrKASperov JrKASperov wrote:

I'd say.... Keith plays very loud and obese as it were. His keyboards constantly scream out as if trying to be bigger than the group, don't like that.

Yeh, ELP rocked!! And you haven't evidently listened to Keith's Concerto.. or to much of his solo work like Blade Runner or Close to Home... or even maybe the second fate of "The Three Fates"..

Originally posted by JrKASperov JrKASperov wrote:

Now Rick Wakeman has this quality, he can stay in the background, often unnoticed unless one wonders where the keyboards have gone and discover them, and then does these great soloes as on Close... However, I don't think Wakeman is 'the greatest' as I don't know many keyboardists, it was merely to show Keith wasn't thát great.

Who said staying in the background was a good thing?  It depends on how boring you like your keyboards.. I prefer mine 'not boring'!



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