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Barla
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Topic: New Metallica Album Posted: December 22 2006 at 10:42 |
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People, I'm a big Metallica fan, they're among my favorite bands and their next CD is one of the albums (to be out the next year) I hope with more expectations. I've heard only one song they played live (on Youtube) from this so expected new album. I've also read somewhere Lars saying this is going to be in the vein of the great "Master Of Puppets", and that are really good news!!
So, what do you expect for this album? Sound (it was stated it'll NOT sound like St. Anger, fortunately)? Any comments are welcome. |
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Logos
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Posted: December 22 2006 at 11:15 | |
No expectations at all.
There's no Metallica anymore. |
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eugene
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Posted: December 22 2006 at 11:23 | |
Yeah, Metallica died soon after 1991. Run out of ideas, stepped on commercial path, - fully understandable and unfortunately too common cause of death.
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Angelo
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Posted: December 22 2006 at 12:04 | |
Metallica died after Master of Puppets. R.I.P.
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1800iareyay
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Posted: December 22 2006 at 12:10 | |
Slayer producer Rick Rubin replaced uber failure Bob Rock, so I'm expecting good production, which was horribly lacking on St. Anger. I know the band wanted a sloppy production for the rawness, but bad production =/= grit. Metallica's debut had poor production but the songs were raw. If the songs are commericalized and the production sux, you have a double whammy of failure. I'm looking forward to the band returning to their roots but I'll be ready to quit Metallica if they make another St. Anger.
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TheProgtologist
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Posted: December 22 2006 at 12:12 | |
I lost interest in Metallica after the brilliant And Justice For All album.
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Stjernestøv
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Posted: December 22 2006 at 12:18 | |
It is NOT going to sound anything like Master of Puppets, I am positive. They may have been influenced by the songs on that album, but they will take that and release another album full of mutilated and mangled songs with a few good moments tossed inbetween. I have heard two new songs from the album; the first one they played live has a couple of good parts, but the bulk of it is mediocre, while the second song is pretty punkish, and catchy, but nothing really great. Of course, I have been a Metallica fan for nine years, so I will check out the new album, but I have precious little hope that it will be any good. Still, as long as they beat St. Anger, I won't complain.
Oh, and Rick Rubin is a good producer, but when did he last produce something that was actually good? I would rather Metallica got a hold of Andy Sneap or Roy Z. Although Roy has been lowering his standards lately, he's notoriously known for reviving careers (Bruce Dickinson and Halford solo, the newest Judas Priest). And both he and Andy know what metal sounds like these days, as opposed to Rick Rubin. |
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enteredwinter
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Posted: December 22 2006 at 14:20 | |
Well, St. Anger, of course, was a horrible mess. I was actually offended by that album, in part because Hetfield clearly sings COMPLETELY off key for a lot of it, and I don't understand how they can record that and just sell it to the unsuspecting masses.
I don't have high hopes for the new one, but if they can put some interesting riffs together and get Hetfield to actually sing decently, I'd buy it. One promising thing: the song on YouTube had some pretty cool riffs and even thrashy soloing, which they haven't done on any song for at least 15 years. The bad news: Hetfield's singing on that song was still crap, and the lyrics were generally terrible. |
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Drew
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Posted: December 22 2006 at 14:21 | |
Right on. |
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lucas
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Posted: December 22 2006 at 15:50 | |
metallica died with Cliff Burton.
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Tuzvihar
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Posted: December 22 2006 at 16:03 | |
I don't agree. "And Justce For All..." is very good. The Black Album is good too although the music is simpler. |
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lucas
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Posted: December 22 2006 at 16:08 | |
yes, they are good, but the typical trademark metallica sound was no more there. |
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Bj-1
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Posted: December 22 2006 at 16:11 | |
It's most likely not gonna' be a new Master or Justice though, still I have some expections to it. I hope It will be better than St. Anger, although I liked that one pretty much (sue me!). |
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Zoot Allures
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Posted: December 22 2006 at 22:29 | |
I would fully agree! The only thing I didn't like on And Justice..was the production, but thats probably just a personal thing.
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The T
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Posted: December 22 2006 at 22:45 | |
I think the black album was very good. Load and Reload were so-so.... St. anger was IT, the "worst album by a band that was decent" ever. Awful. Atrocious. Disgusting. repugnant. So I don't have any good expectations. Besides, Lars ulrich is all for the money, so he always follows trend; i wouldn't be surprised if the new album turns out to be hip-hop-metal or something like that.
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Stjernestøv
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Posted: December 23 2006 at 08:44 | |
I can soothe your fears. There is no way Metallica will ever release a hip-hop metal album, haha. This is simply because James Hetfield can't stand rap. Besides, if they were to release such an album, they would've done so many years ago, when it was still popular to do so. Rapmetal has been out of vogue for years now.
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Barla
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Posted: December 23 2006 at 09:04 | |
Agree, also it happens the same with Nu Metal, but Metallica would NEVER go too far. |
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The T
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Posted: December 23 2006 at 23:10 | |
I hope so.... i insist: my fear is not because of Hetfield, it's because of Ulrich who is a money-hungry corporate-metaller that happened to learn how to play drums (awfully, by the way, yet with a unique style, let's give him that)... He LOVES fame and money, he's the business brain behind Metallica, so I don't know what to expect... maybe a duet: Metallica with Snoop Doggy Dog, Metal Up your Bitch or My Mo' My Thunder or something .....
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Stjernestøv
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Posted: December 24 2006 at 07:07 | |
I would die inside if they did that. Well, they already did the Ja Rule thing (without Hetfield, I might add), but that was just a one-off, not something they included on an album. But why even consider the possibility? It's so unlikely. I gotta give it to Metallica, they actually have standards to this day. They are one of very few majorly successful bands that has never released a best-of collection. Now that they should be proud of. And if Ulrich has never wanted to do that, what makes you think he would start to include rappers on their albums?
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Barla
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Posted: December 24 2006 at 12:45 | |
Why do you say Ulrich is an awful drummer? He's not THAT good, but he really did a great AND creative job, specially on the classic early albums. And about the rap thing, there's a lot of people who hate Metallica because of their last record, so, imagine if they release a song with Snoop Dog, most of people will not buy their albums any more! That's a really stupid thing, also considering they're still a Metal band. However, I still have faith they'll release something á la Puppets of Justice (or at least close to that style). |
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