How many prog albums of 2006 did you listen to?

I must have unlistened them already for non spring to mind.

I listened to 3, and barely played through a fourth album:

Tool - 10,000 days
Mastodon - Blood Mountain
Beyond Twilight - For The Love Of Art And The Making

and barely played through The Mars Volta - Amputechture.

will quite likely listen to quite a few more 2007 albums, though.

10ish here too. Got 7 on CD.

chamberry wrote: Peter Rideout wrote: Would I be right in assuming that most of the new releases/new artists in prog these days are from the metal end of the spectrum? (You know I prefer that 70s sound.) To be honest from my 50 releases of 2006 there were less than 10 that could be concidered prog metal. Metal isn't the only new thing around you know?

He doesn't

Some older folks go by "all modern prog is metal" theory

Peter Rideout wrote: The Miracle wrote: chamberry wrote: Peter Rideout wrote: Would I be right in assuming that most of the new releases/new artists in prog these days are from the metal end of the spectrum? (You know I prefer that 70s sound.) To be honest from my 50 releases of 2006 there were less than 10 that could be concidered prog metal. Metal isn't the only new thing around you know? He doesn't Some older folks go by "all modern prog is metal" theory Guys, I just asked a simple question, and I asked it politely and respectfully. Maybe the answer was obvious to you, but it wasn't to me -- I don't buy much newer prog, as I said. Nor do I read many reviews, nor have I heard many of the newer bands out there. To be honest, I don't have too much interest in getting into a lot of new prog bands -- or many newer bands of any genre. I don't have unlimited money to spend on a luxury like music, and I have close to 2000 CDs, anyway. You may be much the same, one day. (And I wasn't asking about any one person's purchases, Chamber but about the year's prog releases, in general.) Please don't assume to know what I think, or try to drag me into a dispute along genre or generational lines. I do have feelings, you know, and that sort of hurt.

Edited by Zappa88 - January 06 2007 at 00:36

Just about 5...

btw Mike, why are you collecting this information??

fandango wrote: btw Mike, why are you collecting this information??   (I'm just being inquisitive...)

Good question.

Well, I'm just curious. Personally I'm kind of proud that I listened to so many albums of 2006 ... but that doesn't mean that I think that you have to devote that much attention to new releases. Back in 2005 I was totally obsessed with classic prog - I bought Yes - Close to the Edge, Genesis - Selling England by the Pound, Jethro Tull - Thick as a Brick, Gentle Giant - Octopus etc. etc.

chamberry wrote: Peter Rideout wrote: The Miracle wrote: chamberry wrote: Peter Rideout wrote: Would I be right in assuming that most of the new releases/new artists in prog these days are from the metal end of the spectrum? (You know I prefer that 70s sound.) To be honest from my 50 releases of 2006 there were less than 10 that could be concidered prog metal.Metal isn't the only new thing around you know? He doesn'tSome older folks go by "all modern prog is metal" theory Guys, I just asked a simple question, and I asked it politely and respectfully. Maybe the answer was obvious to you, but it wasn't to me -- I don't buy much newer prog, as I said. Nor do I read many reviews, nor have I heard many of the newer bands out there. To be honest, I don't have too much interest in getting into a lot of new prog bands -- or many newer bands of any genre. I don't have unlimited money to spend on a luxury like music, and I have close to 2000 CDs, anyway. You may be much the same, one day.(And I wasn't asking about any one person's purchases, Chamber but about the year's prog releases, in general.)Please don't assume to know what I think, or try to drag me into a dispute along genre or generational lines.I do have feelings, you know, and that sort of hurt. I'm sorry Peter. It's just that I've been reading your resents posts and when talking about the youth of today it's always related to prog metal. I'm not offended by it, it's just that I don't like generalisations. I agree it wasn't the best way to say it and I'm sorry if I sounded harsh. That wasn't my intention.I know that you were talking about progs releases of the year and I'm pretty sure there's as much prog metal as there is symphonic, art rock, and others. (That would've been a better answer to your question.)Sorry for the assumptions too. My opinions were based on your posts and nothing more.No hard feelings?

No, no hard feelings, Chamberry, and thanks.

I swear I asked my question in good faith, with no double meaning, but I have since been roundly lectured by Mike En R. for this post and my question about the ratio of prog to prog metal in 2006 (he assumed I was attacking metal, and all metal fans again, but seems not to have read my reply to him from before Xmas, when I said I wouldn't speak of P Metal in a disparaging way again. Imeant it, and I always try to honour my committments, and/or my word.)

That's right -- I was careful; to ask my question respectfully, and in polite, precise, neutral language, was teased a bit in response, felt hurt, said as much, then Mike PMs me to say "we answered politely, too. What's wrong with you?"

I don't know why he felt he was involved, or that he could speak for you and Miracle, but I've had more than enough of this negativity, and being unflatteringly analyzed my Mike (I won't quote his PM further, but suffice to say, it wasn't nice, and he thinks the very worst of me, every time.)

I have had enough of this -- logging on to be lectured and put down, to always be assumed to be insincere and insulting is too much, and, in all honesty, quite depressing for me.

I also find the forum to be increasingly humourless and intolerant, and frequented by increasing numbers of seriosly hateful bigots, especially in the DNRTM section. I recently reported a grossly offensive post -- now deleted; I think it was in the religion thread -- that had been there for over a week. Though other regulars had posted after it, and must therefore have read it too, I was the ONLY one to report it. I am obviously more and more out of step with what people want this prog music forum to be!)

In light of all this, I am leaving PA, as I don't want to share my time with people who so often make me feel so bad.

When I hurt people's feelings here, even unintentionally, I apologise both publicly and privately (several folks will be able to attest to this). I was genuinely hurt to me so misread (and made fun of), last night, and logged on this morning to see if anyone might have apologised, but I get a nasty lecture from Mike again.



A word of advice to others who may prefer older prog: never let it be known that you don't like today's metal, because that is ALWAYS a personal attack on poor Mike, and he will make his response "to the man," and not to your position. (You should probably also use his signature service, if you want him to like you.)


The fun is gone, for me, so I leave you with good ol' Mike in my place -- enjoy his entertaining, always good-humoured posts!


To my friends: you have my email. I will not post here again. (I say this publicly, as a man of honour and principle, to make any return less likely, and doubly awkward for me.)

Enough. It's just music, and it's time for me to concentrate on real life, real friends, family, and the people who actually know, trust and love me.

Goodbye, and good luck. Sorry again to any whom I might have unintentionally offended over the past few years.

It won't happen again.



Peter Rideout


    
    

Edited by Peter Rideout - January 07 2007 at 02:44

MikeEnRegalia wrote: fandango wrote: btw Mike, why are you collecting this information??   (I'm just being inquisitive...) Good question. Well, I'm just curious. Personally I'm kind of proud that I listened to so many albums of 2006 ... but that doesn't mean that I think that you have to devote that much attention to new releases. Back in 2005 I was totally obsessed with classic prog - I bought Yes - Close to the Edge, Genesis - Selling England by the Pound, Jethro Tull - Thick as a Brick, Gentle Giant - Octopus etc. etc.