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cmidkiff
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Topic: Proto and Prog Related Posted: January 22 2007 at 10:24 |
Should "Prog Related" and "Proto Prog" be on "Prog Archives" as reference only categories, and not be included in the reviews and top ratings lists? Or should they stay as they are?
I say as reference only,after all they are not genres of music. They make the site too watered down. You come to the site and what do you see on the home page? Led Zepplin or the Beatles? Even though "Prog Archives" isn't claiming that these are prog the casual visitor may not pick up on that.
Or maybe we should go one step further and include another category called "Prog Opposite" and include everything that is absolutely not prog.
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Raff
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Posted: January 22 2007 at 10:32 |
I'm moving this poll to the Help Improve the Site section, as this is where it belongs. As to your question... What do you mean by 'Prog Opposite'?
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CrazyDiamond
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Posted: January 22 2007 at 10:32 |
Yeah, sometimes is.. uh.. strange to see on the homepage so much Doors, Zep or Queen reviews. You might be.. yeah.. right
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bluetailfly
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Posted: January 22 2007 at 10:42 |
I say we return to the categorizations of day one on this site.
And that includes getting rid of "prog metal" which to me is a contradiction in terms.
Yeah, that's right, you heard me...
Oh really, well, I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree...
Whoa...are you sayin' you want a piece of me?
Well, I got news for you, metalhead, I could drop you like a sack of dirt...so if you want to start something, just try me, just try me, because I would LOVE to take it outside and slam that flying V right upside your head...
Edited by bluetailfly - January 22 2007 at 16:16
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Posted: January 22 2007 at 10:43 |
bluetailfly wrote:
I say we return to the categorizations of day one on this site.
And that includes getting rid of "prog metal" which to me is a contradiction in terms.
Yeah, that's right, you heard me...
Oh really, well, I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree...
Whoa...are you sayin' you want a piece of me?
Well, I got news for you, metalhead, I could drop you like a sack of dirt...so if you want to start something, just try me, just try me, because I would LOVE to take it outside and slam that flying V right upside your head... |
i don't really get what you mean
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andu
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Posted: January 22 2007 at 10:46 |
Deja-vu... I suggest (again) that proto and related issues to be drawn from the ratings count (and consequently from the top 100), and also their links to be drawn out of the "prog sub-genres" menu from the home page, in order to have their own dedicated sub-menu (with various listing types of menus, definition pages, top 50, etc...) This would help the site and these categories both at the same time.
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bluetailfly
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Posted: January 22 2007 at 10:46 |
I just goofing around...sorry, ... that was a pretty obtuse rant, it wasn't directed at you at all, but to an imaginary "metalhead" who would be offended by my comment.
You know, this whole categorization thing gets pretty volitile sometimes, so I'm just satirizing the whole thing...
Edited by bluetailfly - January 22 2007 at 10:55
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Eetu Pellonpaa
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Posted: January 22 2007 at 11:12 |
I would vote "Be listed as reference only".. If I could vote. "You can not vote in this poll". OK then. Especially "Proto-Prog" and why not "Prog Related" too are a nice feature, but these items shouldn't be on the first page nor in the top lists, or they should have own lists or something IMO.
Edit: Voting problem solved...
Edited by Eetu Pellonpää - January 22 2007 at 15:10
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micky
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Posted: January 22 2007 at 11:16 |
my two cents has always been.. let them have their reviews.. let the
main page be for prog albums only. Sure that would only involve some
tweaking of the program.
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bluetailfly
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Posted: January 22 2007 at 11:17 |
I think the home page should show only the "true" prog bands, and that there should be a door or a sign icon that points users to the alleyway that displays the message "Servants Entrance" that would allow users into proto-prog or prog-related band review...
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Raff
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Posted: January 22 2007 at 11:22 |
bluetailfly wrote:
I just goofing around...sorry, ... that was a pretty obtuse rant, it wasn't directed at you at all, but to an imaginary "metalhead" who would be offended by my comment.
You know, this whole categorization thing gets pretty volitile sometimes, so I'm just satirizing the whole thing... |
Next time, please, when you are 'goofing around', add an emoticon as the site rules point out. Your post might very well cause offense to those people who like metal and don't like to be depicted as morons - even in jest.
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cmidkiff
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Posted: January 22 2007 at 11:23 |
I can see maybe moving the poll, but why did you take away the ability to vote? I wanted to see what the opinion of the PA community was quantified in votes. After all its still a poll, maybe you should move it back.
As far as 'Prog Opposite' thats just sarcasm
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Posted: January 22 2007 at 11:25 |
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kazansky
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Posted: January 22 2007 at 11:25 |
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akin
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Posted: January 22 2007 at 11:29 |
It is good the way they are.
The owners want everything to be possible to review.
Who really cares about the useless top 100 list?
So this is the point.
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andu
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Posted: January 22 2007 at 11:31 |
akin wrote:
Who really cares about the useless top 100 list? |
If nobody cared, it wouldn't have been there.
akin wrote:
So this is the point. |
If it was so simple, there wouldn't be all those bitter arguments regarding these categories and the respective bands.
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kazansky
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Posted: January 22 2007 at 11:34 |
i dont' think that the top 100 list is useless as well. about the proto prog and prog-related, i think the way they are now is good enough for me. after all this site is about the ultimate discography of prog, so everything about prog could go on the front page
just my opinion...
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bluetailfly
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Posted: January 22 2007 at 11:34 |
Ghost Rider wrote:
bluetailfly wrote:
I just goofing around...sorry, ... that was a pretty obtuse rant, it wasn't directed at you at all, but to an imaginary "metalhead" who would be offended by my comment.
You know, this whole categorization thing gets pretty volitile sometimes, so I'm just satirizing the whole thing... |
Next time, please, when you are 'goofing around', add an emoticon as the site rules point out. Your post might very well cause offense to those people who like metal and don't like to be depicted as morons - even in jest.
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Sorry...and for the record it wasn't my intention to depict metalheads as morons, just justifiably upset at someone who would claim that "prog metal" is a contradiction in terms...
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akin
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Posted: January 22 2007 at 11:38 |
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cmidkiff
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Posted: January 22 2007 at 11:41 |
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