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Poll Question: Is Moonchild great or horrible improvisations?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 21 2007 at 01:41
Noodling?

Pretty well choreographed noodling, in that case.

I can't see how something so varied and full of movement would be boring.

I voted "Amazing".
Go and listen to my music.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 21 2007 at 01:41
Originally posted by Vompatti Vompatti wrote:

Okay. I really like the actual "song", but the end sounds a bit boring to me.
 
Me too
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 21 2007 at 03:07
The whole of the first section (vocal section) of the song is magical, with very earthy, pagan, mystical Celtic folk leanings. Then what you called Noodling finishes the track. Noodling is actually the fine art of musical improvisation, a trademark of all eras of King Crimson. And I believe that the introduction of this improvisational art into rock music was a major factor in the development  of  progressive rock. KC was one of the first of the "Noodlers." Moonchild is very unique for its strange blend of folk, and then an abrupt merger into a jazz-rock fusion improvisation. But hasn't KC's music always been somewhat strange? I voted AmazingThumbs%20Up


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 21 2007 at 04:00
I love how it starts, but think the improvs are a bit of a miss IMHO
 
 and my buddies of Globalys do an 8-min+  version of this without the free improvs, but with a Soft Machine-like crossing Floyd Echoes-like extrapolation, which sounds so superb.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 21 2007 at 07:21
Doves did a good version of it on "The Last Broadcast" (without the noodling).
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 21 2007 at 07:33
Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

oh man... one of the most godawful pieces of ....music I've heard in my life (Celine Dion anyday Thumbs%20Up)LOL

Remember the last time I tried to listen to it... my ears actually hemorraged blood.

never again...

arrrruugg...



And this from a man with your dubious musical tastes....Wink

Celine Dion, bah.... MEN!!!!LOL

Seriously, I don't mind the noodling - I actually prefer "Moonchild" to "Providence", probably because of the 'song' part, for which I have always had a soft spot. Therefore, I chose the second option.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 21 2007 at 08:05
Hey! My poll idea became a reality! ;)

A more accurate option  would be "listen to the first two minutes, and THEN hit the skip button!" Tongue
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 21 2007 at 08:51
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 21 2007 at 10:38
I prefer the Doves version.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 21 2007 at 11:22
Originally posted by mickstafa mickstafa wrote:

A more accurate option  would be "listen to the first two minutes, and THEN hit the skip button!" Tongue
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 21 2007 at 12:15
Originally posted by el böthy el böthy wrote:

Originally posted by BaldJean BaldJean wrote:

I like the "noodling" and think there is a lot more than "noodling" going on. if you listen carefully you will find some amazing interplay: there is a real dialogue going on. and, of course, when they finally decide on a certain rhythm (for about the last minute or so, I never measured it), it is the perfect intro for "In the Court of the Crimson King". that alone would be enough for me to never skip the "noodling"

Definitly, there is more to ir than just noodling. It is known that bald women speak of great truths...this is no exception
 
I totally agree, there is much more then yust simple noodling going on, i think the whole track is very beautiful and its a vital part of the album for me wich i culd not yust skip. And if you people who say it sux actualy lisened to the song insted of yust skip it meby you whuld hear it. I voted > Amazing!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 21 2007 at 12:27
It's not bad. The beginning is really good but I don't mind the noodling and I'm not compelled to skip at all. It just makes the title track sound even better 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 21 2007 at 12:32
I think my signature says it all. Anyway, I voted Amazing.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 21 2007 at 12:50
It's OK. Somebody HAD to do it, just like somebody had to paint the "White Square on White Background" painting, or write a poem by sticking together cuts from newspapers... It may not be very pretty by itself, but without it we would have had a lot less of what we got to have; that's why I rate extremely high vanguard art.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 21 2007 at 13:45
I view the whole song like this: In the beginning a female person named "Moonchild" is introduced; a kind of dreamy person. Then she actually appears, and the improvisations that follow depict her ramblings on the lawn near the sundial. A beautiful and melancholic mental image. Never would I skip that part.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 21 2007 at 14:05
Originally posted by Phil Phil wrote:

Originally posted by mickstafa mickstafa wrote:

A more accurate option  would be "listen to the first two minutes, and THEN hit the skip button!" Tongue
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That's what I do.

I don't mind improvisational stuff, but this one just doesn't work. They would get better at it later on. This is the only thing that keeps ItCotCK from being a five star album, in my mind.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 21 2007 at 14:15
hmmm.. noodle soup!!Tongue
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 21 2007 at 15:36
Originally posted by Vompatti Vompatti wrote:

Okay. I really like the actual "song", but the end sounds a bit boring to me.


That's my opinion too.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 21 2007 at 15:39
It's very entertaining if I'm in the right mood, and very annoying if I'm in the wrong mood. Voted okay.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 22 2007 at 03:20
Originally posted by mickstafa mickstafa wrote:

Hey! My poll idea became a reality! ;)

A more accurate option  would be "listen to the first two minutes, and THEN hit the skip button!" Tongue
 
 
 
 
Eeehhhmmmm!!!!!!!!!!!!!................
 
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