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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 14 2007 at 19:57
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 14 2007 at 21:03
Many of you have probably heard this story, but...

During the Topographic tour, Wakeman, who hated the album, had his assistant order Indian food which he proceeded to eat onstage during one of the TO numbers that had minimal parts for him. 

Anderson was furious.  I don't blame him.  When you're in a professional band making big money, you show up 100% and if you don't like one of the other guys songs, you deal with it.  You don't act bored or be a f%$king baby about it.  Or at least that's how I would treat my bandmates were I touring.  Pretty funny story though, and true, told by Wakeman himself in an interview.

As to your question, TFTO is one of prog's very finest moments. 



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 14 2007 at 21:09
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 14 2007 at 21:14
both-- the epitome of everything brillaint and pompous about prog.. and one of the finest albums ever

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 14 2007 at 22:46
Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

both-- the epitome of everything brillaint and pompous about prog.. and one of the finest albums ever



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 14 2007 at 22:50
Originally posted by Finnforest Finnforest wrote:

Many of you have probably heard this story, but...

During the Topographic tour, Wakeman, who hated the album, had his assistant order Indian food which he proceeded to eat onstage during one of the TO numbers that had minimal parts for him. 

Anderson was furious.  I don't blame him.  When you're in a professional band making big money, you show up 100% and if you don't like one of the other guys songs, you deal with it.  You don't act bored or be a f%$king baby about it.  Or at least that's how I would treat my bandmates were I touring.  Pretty funny story though, and true, told by Wakeman himself in an interview.

As to your question, TFTO is one of prog's very finest moments. 




I know.... it sort of puts his oft-repeated criticisms of the album in context.  He wanted to go one direction with the album... was out-voted... and threw a temper tantrum like a spoiled child in return LOL


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 14 2007 at 23:36
I've never understood the criticisms from Yes-fans of this album; to me it's a logical continuation of the territory explored on Close to the Edge...just a bit more over the top (yes, "a little bit" more...c'mon folks, this album isn't that hard to listen to; it's very melodic and features many delightful, sweeping melodies-- and it's sung well to boot).  And surprisingly, I don't find Wakeman's contributions overshadowed as would be expected, there's plenty of moog and mellotron that he should have been happy; it's a very symphonic album...
Anyway, I don't think it's the "epitome" of progressive rock, but it is certainly a brilliant album.  I'll vote for the second option out of sheer enjoyment for the beauty here and the ambition behind the music/concept.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 14 2007 at 23:46
One of the best Prog Rock albums I've listened to, that deserves to be up there, at least in the top 20! I can't understand why it's so low in the Archives! Underrated, anyone?? Dead

Coincidentally, I was going to listen to this album, but because of a headache I won't...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 15 2007 at 05:24
Firstly I hated this album. Nothing seemed to make sense, but it was Yes, so I tried a bit harder and gave it a few more spin time, often as a background music when I was concentrating on other stuff. Somehow, a lot of passages grew on me.
So, for me, it is there along with CTTE and Fragile. Best three albums by Yes for me.

I also think, what if Bruford was still with the band? Do you think it could be better, or less worse for those who really hated this album?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 15 2007 at 05:58
The Epitome of everything brilliant about prog! Thumbs%20Up 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 15 2007 at 08:28
 Rather the second option, I love this album.
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 15 2007 at 10:08
What I've gathered from this poll, is that people like optionsLOL
I'll be sure to post more options if I make a poll in future and I apologise for this one, having a lack of them.

Sorry to go off topic. Please continue.Smile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 15 2007 at 10:11
Best album Ever!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 15 2007 at 11:10
Originally posted by Abstrakt Abstrakt wrote:

Best album Ever!


That award goes to 'My Arms, Your Hearse' by OpethWink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 15 2007 at 11:41
Originally posted by coleio coleio wrote:

What I've gathered from this poll, is that people like optionsLOL
I'll be sure to post more options if I make a poll in future and I apologise for this one, having a lack of them.

Sorry to go off topic. Please continue.Smile
 
The only problem I have with your poll is the fact that you use the word pretentious. Angry 
 
That's the word that is used by the masses of mindless entertainment consumers who want nothing to do with thinking about anything at all, much less music or movies. Ironically, those that throw the word around seem to be the ones that have to have the most expensive car, the biggest  house, name brand tennis shoes and tend to want to be the center of attention in their given clique. They also love to impress people that they know big condescending words like pretentious.  Not saying that you are that type of person, you after all, do listen to thoughtful music and just presneted the word in a poll question. The word just tends cause a negative reaction in me.
 
That being said, Tales is not one of my favorite albums. The songs just seem to be long for the sake of being long. They just lack any combination of structure and complexity. For Yes epics I prefer Close to the Edge, Awaken or even Gates of Delirium. But none of them touch Supper's Ready.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 15 2007 at 12:31
Pretentious, over the top, pompous prog

That's why I like it Wink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 15 2007 at 13:37
an incredible album!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 15 2007 at 18:58
Originally posted by Tapfret Tapfret wrote:

Originally posted by coleio coleio wrote:

What I've gathered from this poll, is that people like optionsLOL
I'll be sure to post more options if I make a poll in future and I apologise for this one, having a lack of them.

Sorry to go off topic. Please continue.Smile
 
The only problem I have with your poll is the fact that you use the word pretentious. Angry 
 
That's the word that is used by the masses of mindless entertainment consumers who want nothing to do with thinking about anything at all, much less music or movies. Ironically, those that throw the word around seem to be the ones that have to have the most expensive car, the biggest  house, name brand tennis shoes and tend to want to be the center of attention in their given clique. They also love to impress people that they know big condescending words like pretentious.  Not saying that you are that type of person, you after all, do listen to thoughtful music and just presneted the word in a poll question. The word just tends cause a negative reaction in me.
 
That being said, Tales is not one of my favorite albums. The songs just seem to be long for the sake of being long. They just lack any combination of structure and complexity. For Yes epics I prefer Close to the Edge, Awaken or even Gates of Delirium. But none of them touch Supper's Ready.


I didn't use the word 'pretentious' because I think it is so.
I used it mainly as it is a word levelled at TFTO a lot, so basically jumping on the majority of thoughts about the album.

But no, I don't think its pretentious myself, and I do get annoyed with people who do call prog pretentious.

Good points matey Smile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 15 2007 at 19:53
Yes at their best
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 15 2007 at 22:41
Originally posted by Barla Barla wrote:

One of the best Prog Rock albums I've listened to, that deserves to be up there, at least in the top 20! I can't understand why it's so low in the Archives! Underrated, anyone?? Dead




the easy answer to that was spelled out in my review.  It isn't ear candy. It is a challenging album.  A piece of sonic art.  Like any work of art... some people love it... others hate it.   The ones who use the grey matter between their ears can put aside their objective views and understand that THAT album indeed was the watershed of the prog rock movement in the 70's.  Prog was about pushing the limits...  that album was the culmination of everything that prog had been working towards since 1969. 

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