Sabbath vs Zeppelin (REAL)

 

Sure, I have no problem with that. I was merely pointing out that the original criteria, while a key ingredient, rarely stands on its own.

I haven't voted, I don't think one band is better than the other, or that one guitarist is better than the other.

 

I will stick my neck out and say that Bill Ward was a better drummer than John Bonham.  

 

 

1968-zep 1(pretty good)

zep wins

1969-zep 2(good, but very overrated and outdated)

zep wins

1970-Zep 3(very good), Black sabbath(good), Paranoid(very good)

sabbath wins :)

1971-Zep 4(good, but very commercial and overrated), Master of reality(very good)

sabbath wins ;)

1972-Vol. 4(pretty good)

sabbath wins ;)

1973-Houses of the holy(very good), Sabbath bloody sabbath(very good)

draw

1975-Physical graffiti(some strong songs, but alot of repetitive songs, fairly good), Sabotage(fairly good, but overrated)

draw

1976-Prescence(fairly good), Never say die(average)

zep wins

1978-Technical ecstasy(average)

sabbath wins

1979-In through the out door(good)

zep wins

1980-Coda(fairly good), Heavan and hell(very good)

sabbath wins

1981-Mob rules(very good)

sabbath wins ;)

 

To me Sabbath had cooler heavy music and a better vocalist , guitarist and bass player. Zeps had some very good heavy songs, but a few outdated sounding heavy songs too. They were just a bit Rock n roll and blues influenced and they get a bit dated and boring. But zeps had cool acoustic. But Plant had a pretty average voice imo and although Bonham was a better drummer, I much pretty jazzy style drumming than heavy hitting rock beats. I can barely listen to zep 2 and zep 4 today either.

Led Zeppelin was the best hard rock group of their day.

Balck Sabbath was musically inferior but caught on because they had the gall to outwardly embrace the dark side, flirting with Satanic imagery and such.

 

I never thought Tony Iommi was any good at all. He wasn't as talented as alot of guitarists and he had no personality. I thought, and still think, that Ozzy Osbourne is just a flipping drugged out idiot who was lucky to find a niche. His singing sucks, his lyrics are juvenile. I think, rather than great innovators who spawned a genre, Black Sabbath was just a mediocre band full of dark depressive guys. The sound spun off the fact that they couldn't play their instruments any better. Does someone want to tell me that "Paranoid" shows good musicianship? I've heard middle school kids who could play better.

 

I'm sorry. I think Black Sabbath sucks, and am shocked that they get the credit they get. I saw where some of Zeppelin's stuff was considered outdated, whereas Sabbath's wasn't. I attribute that to the fact that the world is a darker and angrier place than it was in the early 70's, and the mood of the public has melded more with Sabbath's gloomy sound.

Aside from the music, I think someone deciding to name their band Black Sabbath, and fly in the face of religious morals is stupid, and the people who do it are stupid. If there is a God, and I believe there is, you're offending the one who has your eternal fate in His hands just to make a few extra bucks. If you don't believe in God, you're still taking that chance.

And I in no way am condoning Jimmy Page's infatuation with Aleister Crowley by choosing them over Sabbath. That was the beginning of the end for them, as people close to them began to fall like flies in very mysterious circumstances. That should be something of a lesson.