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avestin
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Topic: Supersilent Posted: January 06 2008 at 17:15 |
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What do you make of this Norwegian noise/electronic/improv/free-jazz outfit?
I got to know them during 2007 and have acquired their whole discography (apart from their DVD Supersilent 7) and have grown slowly accustomed to it and then even liking it more and more, understanding/grasping more the music (or whatever you want to call it). Right now, due to discovering some music that is even more (much more) challenging than theirs, I can easily relate to their music, and find it enjoyable, but the question remains - do you enjoy this? is this music to your ears?
Some links:
Unofficial website - http://www.supersilence.net/
Interview with the band (very interesting, they talk about how they record and compose) - http://www.white-heat.com/?page=articles&id=17
Label (Rune Grammofon) - http://www.runegrammofon.com/artists/supersilent/
Review of Supersilent 8 - http://www.bbc.co.uk/music/release/dpjw/
Wikipedia - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supersilent
From their unofficial website:
members
helge sten (electronics, guitars, keyboards) Chronology:
There are also other projects in which the members participate in (different than Supersilent material but worth looking into).
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avestin
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Posted: January 06 2008 at 17:19 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
So far I feel I have absorbed well their music until Supersilent 5. I sense a progression with regards to the sounds they make, the atmosphere produced, the experimentation done and the effects used. Any takers?
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Bj-1
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Posted: January 06 2008 at 17:53 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Heard all of their albums once in the record store downtown. Great stuff, will definitely check'em out further.
Jarle Vespestad is an amazing drummer, BTW. He played with another Norwegian band named Farmer's Market. They play a sort of hyperactive Ethnic Folk/Jazz/RIO music that reminds me of Alamaailman Vasarat mixed with Tribal Tech (I suggested them in the ZART) His performance with them is beyond awesome!
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RIO/AVANT/ZEUHL - The best thing you can get with yer pants on!
EXERIOR Experimental tech/death/progmetal from Norway! |
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avestin
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Posted: January 06 2008 at 20:49 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
I'll give Farmer's Market a listen next week. Interested in hearing what it's like.
Back to Supersilent, that link to the interview I posted above (http://www.white-heat.com/?page=articles&id=17) has interesting details about the band's history and the way they make their records.
Just read this one question from the interview:
How does a Supersilent songs comes about? Jarle Vespestad: It's the same now as it has always been: we never rehearse, we improvise. We started out as a trio, without Helge. Then we rehearsed a lot, checking out different ways of communication. When Helge came in, the band stabilised, Supersilent became clearer in a way. We used to practise a lot, but we stopped doing that ten years ago. |
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Man With Hat
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Posted: January 07 2008 at 00:03 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
An intriguing sounding band.
Been wanting to order their first three boxset for a bit now.
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superprog
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Posted: January 07 2008 at 08:38 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
OH YES OH YES OH YES!!!!!! finally someone other than myself plugs the almighty Supersilent!!! Honestly i think they're the greatest improv group in the history of the universe..........yet its not traditional call & response or noisy/quiet improv ala Derek Bailey or AMM but a powerful organic sound-beast that gathers momentum as the 4 members interact and empathise w one another.
Supersilent for PA!!! they're not a prog or fusion band per se but the music they create can bring to mind electric Miles, Terje Rypdal, Popul Vuh, Talk Talk, bits of King Crimson, Godspeed, IDM-electronica...........but its much more than the sum of such parts............ the greatest...............alongside Tortoise heheheh |
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avestin
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Posted: January 07 2008 at 09:18 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Let me quote some of the responses at Progressive Ears forum in a similar thread I opened:
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avestin
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Posted: January 07 2008 at 10:13 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
And two more:
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heyitsthatguy
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Posted: January 07 2008 at 13:26 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
This is one of those bands that there's no way I should like but just do
6 is a nice chill album, still havent given 8 a proper listen
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chamberry
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Posted: January 07 2008 at 13:53 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
I have one of Arve Henriksen's solo album. It's called Chiaroscuro and it's a nice gentle and peaceful album.
Haven't heard of Supersilent yet, but I'm planning on doing so soon. |
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superprog
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Posted: January 07 2008 at 21:36 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
to reprise my descriptions of their albums:
1-3 - skull-f**king noise-jazz blizzards!!!
4 - this is death-jazz!!! ominous, rumbling power.......
5 - their most ambient work but full of intense foreboding
6 - their most soundtrack-ish and beautifully glacial work, ECM fans take note!!
7 - the mother of all live dvds, beautifully filimed in black n' white, amazing music that builds from canvasses of silence into epic catastrophic rock-outs!!!
8 - a relatively sparse and minimal effort but an effective lumbering-swaying beast, with 2 doom/metalnoise workouts thrown in fer good measure!!!
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superprog
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Posted: January 09 2008 at 21:45 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Avestin wrote:
Electric full improvisation is not easy to come across in my particular explorations. In most jazz contexts, you have stuff with 'electronic manipulation' like Evan Parker's Electroacoustic ensemble and Spring Heel Jack's later work. There's also a lot of EAI music which gets 'way out' there from the most extreme music to the emerging minimalist movement (imagine listening to electronic manipulation in the form of blips and feedback a la Keith Rowe for 60 minutes). In rock or other contexts, rarely do you get full on improv as much as "jamming".
A few recs off the top of my head. Bone Structure - G.E. Stinson/Gregg Bendian's improv group on Cryptogramophone. It's electric nature and violin certainly can remind one of early 70s Crimson improvs at times. L Stinkbug & Splinter Group - Two more G.E. Stinson related bands, both heavy on the guitar. Francois Houle - Au Coeur du Litige: Canadian jazz clarinet player's electro-acoustic album. First disc is mostly all solo with manipulation. 2nd disc has various musicians and some spoken word. Species Being - Orgone Therapy: A 'rock improv' group with a few albums. They apparently played with Nels Cline at some point. Isildurs Bane & Metamorfosi Trio - MIND Vol. 3: This one slipped by most people as it got away from IB's typical sound. Porcupine Tree - Metanoia: Believe it or not. Though I wouldn't put this in the same league as Supersilent. Djam Karet - Still No Commercial Potential - ditto. Supersilent's roots are in a way still largely in jazz and here are some records that mix jazzz n' electronics which fans would like esp if you are into 5 and 6:
Marcus Stockhausen feat. Terje Rypdal - Karta
David Torn - Prezens
Jon Hassell - Powerspot
Lonely Universe - s/t (feat. Torn & Mick Karn)
Weather Report - Live In Montreux DVD
Weather Report - I Sing The Body Electric
on the more rock end here are a few more:
King Crimson - Vroom mini-album / Thrakattak
The Projeckt series of cds by KC members
Ultralyd - Conditions For A Piece of Music
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avestin
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Posted: January 09 2008 at 22:45 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Recently discovered this as well (been on my hard drive for some time unlistened to) and loving it as well as their other album. They're on our voting chart.
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VanderGraafKommandöh
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Posted: January 10 2008 at 03:46 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Out of everything listed, I'm only familiar with Ultralyd, but I do plan on listening to Supersilent soon.
I think it was my gentle reminder to Assaf, that got him hooked on Ultralyd, especially as I know he likes Shining - Grindstone. Edited by Geck0 - January 12 2008 at 21:58 |
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Apsalar
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Posted: January 10 2008 at 20:12 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Great band, which I have revisted due to this thread. Thinking 'bout picking up that boxset of the first three albums, looks promising. Looking at the above posts from progressive ears, I was surprise to see several people linking this band to eai. While I can see where people are making links, I don't personally agree with them. But it is good to see such a small niche of musical getting a mention on a prog site.
BTW Assaf, have you given those Radian albums I sent you a while back a spin? I know they are different types of bands, but at times I find the timbre somewhat similar, despite the void of jazzy tendancies. The drummer from Radian, produced an album with another Austrian musican (guitarist) called 'Too Beautiful to Burn' which is absolutely stunning. So if you liked them I will have to send you some samples of this other album. A very rhythmic album with an almost post-rock like influence, with out the rock.
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avestin
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Posted: January 12 2008 at 21:45 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Hey Adam,
Haven't listened to it yet (I've got a ton of music on my hard drive still to listen to).
But I'll listen to it definitely and I'm interested in this album you mention here as well.
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superprog
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Posted: January 13 2008 at 21:38 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Ahhh...... Radian, most excellent motorik-electronik postrock. Another band which would you guys wld like if you like it rhythmic/electronic but without too much postrock, go for this French 90s quartet called Tone Rec.
Their 3 albums (Thugny-Trugny, Pholcus, Couchy Pack) are top-notch esp the first 2 which bring to mnd the best bits of Oval and Tortoise's Djed.........
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chamberry
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Posted: January 13 2008 at 21:53 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Gonna take note for these two bands. Thanks for the recommendations. |
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avestin
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Posted: January 14 2008 at 08:43 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
I have Thugny-Trugny which I still have yet to listen to. I'll definitely do so now, thanks!
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Posted: January 14 2008 at 10:03 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Only heard a few Supersilent tracks but I like what I've heard, I need to hear more!
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