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darkshade
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Posted: October 01 2008 at 14:17 |
Heavy? what is there something wrong with the Earth's gravitational pull in the future?
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laplace
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Posted: October 01 2008 at 13:37 |
maybe Melvins - Eggnog?
sludge seems to be where it gets relentless. Personally I think Sabbath's song "Electric Funeral" is still right up there, no matter the improvements in recording since then.
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limeyrob
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Posted: October 01 2008 at 13:25 |
My heaviest album is the double vinyl of Quadrophenia with the booklet of black and white photographic plates. Weighs a ton!
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Negoba
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Posted: October 01 2008 at 11:19 |
I'm old but I still think tracks like Metallica's "Blackened", "Harvester of Sorrow", and even "Master of Puppets" are pretty heavy.
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Petrovsk Mizinski
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Posted: October 01 2008 at 09:41 |
toolis wrote:
Meshuggah and probably grind death metal bands eg Canibal Corpse etc... |
Both of them are pretty heavy. What... grind death? Cannibal Corpse?  They haven't released anything that comes close to sounding anything like deathgrind. A pure brutal death band... brutal death sound barely anything like deathgrind. You must be listening to stuff like Pig Destroyer or something of similar ilk.
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Jared
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Posted: October 01 2008 at 09:25 |
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Merzbow - Merzbox (50 cd box set) |
have they ever issued a CD made out of Plutonium??... 
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Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson
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Man Erg
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Posted: October 01 2008 at 09:09 |
Merzbow - Merzbox (50 cd box set)
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Do 'The Stanley' otherwise I'll thrash you with some rhubarb.
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toolis
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Posted: October 01 2008 at 09:06 |
Meshuggah and probably grind death metal bands eg Canibal Corpse etc...
Edited by toolis - October 01 2008 at 09:09
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jimidom
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Posted: October 01 2008 at 08:50 |
If you should score this one on vinyl, be careful because it could melt the rest of your collection.
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BaldFriede
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Posted: October 01 2008 at 08:09 |
Anyone can be heavy today. It is difficult to say who is the heaviest, but when being heavy has become kind of normal it is not that sensational at all. If you want something sensationally heavy go back to 1969 and listen to High Tide's debut "Sea Shanties". It is still quite heavy today; for the time it came out it was insanely heavy.
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Windhawk
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Posted: October 01 2008 at 03:37 |
Hmmm, one of my candidates would be Electric Wizard; their album Dopethrone makes any Black Sabbath album sound like lightweight pop music in comparison.
Celtic Frost and their swansong release Monotheist is a pretty decent candidate too.
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Apsalar
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Posted: October 01 2008 at 03:21 |
keiser willhelm wrote:
OH!! theres a japanese band (but they sing/scream in spanish) called Corrupted. Their CD Dios Injusto HAS to be a top contender. give it a listen.
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Agreed. Tho' I'd mostly likely go for another album. Sus Futuros off their album 'Se Hace Por Los Suenos Asesinos' is about as heavy as I've heard the band go, especially in a live situation. If you've not checked out any of their full albums, Dios Injusto is a very shot ep, give 'em a go, especially 'El Mundo Frio' & 'Llenandose de Gusanos'.
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keiser willhelm
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Posted: October 01 2008 at 02:09 |
i made a mistake, Mosquito control is NOT heavier than Red Sea, though its close and (better? hmmm. . . )
Also, maybe some Gorgoroth?
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stonebeard
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Posted: October 01 2008 at 01:45 |
Here's a list...
Train of Thought by Dream Theater Hvis Lyset Tar Oss by Burzum Sunn 0))) - Black One Isis - Oceanic Opeth - Deliverance Univers Zero - Heresie Mastodon - Leviathan Negură Bunget - Om (epicly obscure black metal reference! Level up!!!)
Anyway, that's some heavy stuff I know of.
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keiser willhelm
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Posted: October 01 2008 at 01:28 |
Jake Kobrin wrote:
faceofdoomness wrote:
Devin Townsend's Ziltoid the Omniscient is pretty darn heavy...
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Pussy  
No JK. Nile - Annihilate the Wicked is really heavy. There's a part in one song, I forget the name where the drummer's still doing his triple bass drum hits but the tempo is very slow and the guitar too... SOOO HEAVY. I was going to say Chaosphere as well though. HEAAVVVYYY. Honestly I think that slow and sludge is heavier than fast and thrashy.
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Agree with these (and the Boris - Absolutego) , and would like to bring up Isis's heaviest album, Mosquito Control. One of my fav's of the band, and awesoemly heavey. Other Contender's Omega Massiff - Geisterstadt, the first Pelican EP, Shub Niggurath's Les Morts Vont Vite, Unearthly Trance - The Trident, OH!! theres a japanese band (but they sing/scream in spanish) called Corrupted. Their CD Dios Injusto HAS to be a top contender. give it a listen.
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Jake Kobrin
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Posted: October 01 2008 at 00:54 |
faceofdoomness wrote:
Devin Townsend's Ziltoid the Omniscient is pretty darn heavy...
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Pussy   No JK. Nile - Annihilate the Wicked is really heavy. There's a part in one song, I forget the name where the drummer's still doing his triple bass drum hits but the tempo is very slow and the guitar too... SOOO HEAVY. I was going to say Chaosphere as well though. HEAAVVVYYY. Honestly I think that slow and sludge is heavier than fast and thrashy.
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faceofdoomness
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Posted: October 01 2008 at 00:09 |
Devin Townsend's Ziltoid the Omniscient is pretty darn heavy...
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darkshade
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Posted: October 01 2008 at 00:06 |
Decapitated was quite brutal. Especially the first album.
early In Flames was heavy. Testament's Low is real heavy.
Another genre that's very heavy is funk. James Brown is probably the heaviest. But then you have some of the jazz-funk too.
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topofsm
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Posted: October 01 2008 at 00:02 |
Dim wrote:
topofsm wrote:
darkshade wrote:
i listened exclusively to all kinds of metal before i got into prog and thought you couldnt be heavy without being metal. then i got into prog, and eventually discovered King Crimson. I got Red and thought that sh*t was heavy, then LTIA, and thought that was even heavier. then i got The Power to Believe
so my answer for heaviest song is Level One by KC
Heaviest Album goes to either Red (KC) or Volume 4 by Black Sabbath. I was going to choose an Opeth album, but all their albums post-MAYH besides Damnation are so f*cking heavy i couldnt choose
but there are many different types of 'heaviness'. i find certain jazz-rock songs very heavy, even some jazz. Coltrane was very heavy in the latter days
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Of course there are different types of heaviness! Good observation! I am always reading forums where people ask for the very first heavy metal song and there's always a couple of chaps who name something along the lines of "Mars, The Bringer of War" or "The Rite of Spring", which are of course classical pieces with no electric instrumentation in the least.
I like your idea behind whats heavy and brutal, and while I dont find Mars, Bringer of war heavy, it's some of the most brutal stuff I've ever heard.
Topofsm: Hmm, I usually think of more thrashy stuff as brutal. We may be defining more than what is heavy in this thread, if we continue much more.
I guess there's just something about different music that makes things heavy. There's metal that I wouldn't know is heavy or not.
For my friends, bands like Decapitated and Nile are very heavy. I would call that type of music brutal, but not heavy. Likewise, Meshuggah, who tends to be brutal and thrashy can also be very, very heavy. "I" is one of the perfect examples.
Ironically enough, "I" is one of the few Meshuggah songs I know semi well. But I neither find that song heavy or brutal. Not heavy cause of the lack of discernable melody, the guitars are more for rythmic or percussive reasons rather than drop B face smashing. Not brutal cause it's too experimental, and instead of putting the focus on killing you, it's more musical than anything else.
I guess I see what you mean. I think of more the opening minute or two, where it's just chugging in odd times and the toms on the drums are just full blast, which I consider heavy. It loses its brutality and heaviness once there's a ton of screaming for about 30 seconds, and then it goes into chugging (albeit in odd times and syncopation) which I consider heavy. I guess chugging (fast as in the opening section of "I" or in the slow crawling evil chugging you find so often in sludge and doom) means heavy for me. Thrashing, deep growling, and blastbeats or fast drumming in general are what defines brutal for me. I'd find it interesting to know what things mean for other people.
I might just have to get some Cult of Luna stuff just so I can get a taste of what you're talking about. I tend to not like slow music though, so it'll be a risky buy, but I have rarely regretted trying new stuff.
Cult of Luna is not very fast, but what they lack in speed anf technicallity, they make up for in beauty and power. Start with their 2006 album Somewhere along the highway, if thats too mellow, get the Beyond, but dont say I didnt warn you!
I'll definetely consider your reccomendations. I'll more than likely read a few reviews of their albums on the archives before I actually make a decision, but I definetely find heaviness a good thing in my music. |
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Dim
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Posted: September 30 2008 at 22:46 |
topofsm wrote:
darkshade wrote:
i listened exclusively to all kinds of metal before i got into prog and thought you couldnt be heavy without being metal. then i got into prog, and eventually discovered King Crimson. I got Red and thought that sh*t was heavy, then LTIA, and thought that was even heavier. then i got The Power to Believe
so my answer for heaviest song is Level One by KC
Heaviest Album goes to either Red (KC) or Volume 4 by Black Sabbath. I was going to choose an Opeth album, but all their albums post-MAYH besides Damnation are so f*cking heavy i couldnt choose
but there are many different types of 'heaviness'. i find certain jazz-rock songs very heavy, even some jazz. Coltrane was very heavy in the latter days
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Of course there are different types of heaviness! Good observation! I am always reading forums where people ask for the very first heavy metal song and there's always a couple of chaps who name something along the lines of "Mars, The Bringer of War" or "The Rite of Spring", which are of course classical pieces with no electric instrumentation in the least.
I like your idea behind whats heavy and brutal, and while I dont find Mars, Bringer of war heavy, it's some of the most brutal stuff I've ever heard.
I guess there's just something about different music that makes things heavy. There's metal that I wouldn't know is heavy or not.
For my friends, bands like Decapitated and Nile are very heavy. I would call that type of music brutal, but not heavy. Likewise, Meshuggah, who tends to be brutal and thrashy can also be very, very heavy. "I" is one of the perfect examples.
Ironically enough, "I" is one of the few Meshuggah songs I know semi well. But I neither find that song heavy or brutal. Not heavy cause of the lack of discernable melody, the guitars are more for rythmic or percussive reasons rather than drop B face smashing. Not brutal cause it's too experimental, and instead of putting the focus on killing you, it's more musical than anything else.
I might just have to get some Cult of Luna stuff just so I can get a taste of what you're talking about. I tend to not like slow music though, so it'll be a risky buy, but I have rarely regretted trying new stuff.
Cult of Luna is not very fast, but what they lack in speed anf technicallity, they make up for in beauty and power. Start with their 2006 album Somewhere along the highway, if thats too mellow, get the Beyond, but dont say I didnt warn you! |
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