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anything by Kansas  ............................................ runs away laffing,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, hides behind the sofa.......... chuckling like a loon   
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Originally posted by Hawkwise Hawkwise wrote:

anything by Kansas  ............................................ runs away laffing,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, hides behind the sofa.......... chuckling like a loon   
 
I say the same thing about Gentle Giant



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Originally posted by Hawkwise Hawkwise wrote:

anything by Kansas  ............................................ runs away laffing,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, hides behind the sofa.......... chuckling like a loon   
The topic referred to "Progressive" albums...so no need to hide.
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Points: 9669 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 25 2008 at 01:05
Fartcattle, er StarcastleDead
 
 
Can you say "blatant ripoff," boys and girls? Thumbs Down
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I dunno, I guess I haven't really heard any. Like another poster said, there are some bands I consider mediocre (like Dream Theater, the Flower Kings and Spock's Beard) but I'd still rather listen to them than a lot of other music. The problem (well, not really a problem since it's a benefit in the long run) is that I normally will only check out an album if it has some kind of positive review. I don't interact with prog like I do with stuff that's on the radio where what you listen to is out of your conrol and you're subjected to whatever. If I listened to some prog radio on the internet I'm sure I'd come across some atrocious stuff.
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Points: 8634 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 25 2008 at 01:52
I'm a little afraid to voice my opinion on this matter. Some of what I find to be the most horrible progressive is actually rated fairly high here (3 or better). I'm afraid I might get excommunicated.




 

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Originally posted by Peter Peter wrote:

Fartcattle, er StarcastleDead
 
 
Can you say "blatant ripoff," boys and girls? Thumbs Down
 
I go with that one.
 
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Originally posted by Hawkwise Hawkwise wrote:

anything by Kansas  ............................................ runs away laffing,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, hides behind the sofa.......... chuckling like a loon   
 
Kansas?
 
One of my top 5
 
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I'm afraid this is quickly going to become nothing more than a bashing threadUnhappy....

Being very selective in my purchases, I have rarely come across a REALLY bad prog album  - even though, of course, there are many that just don't do anything for me. That doesn't mean they're bad at all.. It's just to do with personal taste. However, I remember that Russian band, Little Tragedies, with something close to horror... They were deadly boring (the worst musical sin in my book), and anything but original.
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i remember to slam about a Edhels album.. that was Oriental Christmas.




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Points: 15585 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 25 2008 at 04:12
As Raff says, this thread is in danger of simply becoming a succession of posts bashing a band, an album or a genre.
 
Let's keep any critisim constructuve and avoid being insulting.
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Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

instead of bashing a whole genre why not cite specific albums, as per the thread starters request


Because the list may be too long LOL
 
Seriously, I cannot relate to specific band or album, because if its to bad I tend to forget it immediatly, but I could say that prog to be carful with is: too monontonious, without something interesting in it, too bombastic with no real feeling, and bad vocalists, that could ruin any music. Be carful with that kind of prog. 
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I find something good, even a spot, in every prog band.
I usually dig in and listen to anything before I discard it. And it is very difficult for me to discard a band thoroughly. The light can be found behind every corner...
Of course there are bands I listen to every day with more than psycological and physical pleasure but other times I wip myself with strange stuff, such as Brazilian prog bands or new new progressive, trying not to be prejudiced towards them thus giving them a chance to get into my mood. I confess that sometimes it's too tough even for a good chap like me, but I don't give up. Mainl when I listen to them for the first times (up to 10 to 12 before expressing a sentence!).
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Originally posted by Henry Plainview Henry Plainview wrote:

 Oh yes, I forgot, Torman Maxt paid M@x good money to let us know that they are the worst prog metal you'll ever hear. And that they read CS Lewis. Most amusing.
 
I would nominate In This Life by Thinking Plague as the worst Avant-prog, and probably one of the worst albums of prog in general. Maybe their other albums are better, but this album sounds like a regular rock band that isn't allowed to play any consonant harmonies or play in 4/4, with a singer who desperately wishes she could sound like Dagmar. That is not what prog is about. That they appear to think they are the best avant-prog band in the world doesn't help either.


That's very precise. There's other albums and tracks I really enjoy by them. Moonsongs from 87 (both early years and original versions) is pretty amazing, but doesn't sound like This Life at all.

I like a lot of his music but, some Dave Kerman related bands and projects has that forced weirdness/complexity/unatural feel that great Avant/RIO doesn't have.

Acqua Fragile is the worst Genesis ripoff among quite a few awful ones. Umemorable songs and a Peter Gabriel soundalike but with a serious constipation problem (pressing the words out) a bad accent and very silly lyrics. 

There's some even worse Zucchero-soundalike (also with the constipation) vocalist, in a band from Mexico I can't remember their name right now. Their music was cheesy, thin symphonic anno 1981 (that's neo, I guess)
Over land and under ashes
In the sunlight, see - it flashes
Find a fly and eat his eye
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Points: 6336 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 25 2008 at 15:13
Not horrible by any means, but incredibly boring and dull is Fleur De Lisīs Facing Morning... but itīs not bad music, itīs just very uninteresting...

Torman Maxt, that is pretty crappy... jejeje I like it how they have some possitive reviews in their Myspace site that seem almost written by themself. I canīt imagine a true progger really lovinī it...

Also, not horrible (I think I donņt really have a very horrible album) is Maldororīs l`arbre cimetiere. I canīt point out my finger why that is. But the music is just so, again, uninteresting
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Points: 28057 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 25 2008 at 15:36
Gentlemen, let me present:

http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=3718
My soundcloud. Please give feedback if you want!
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Points: 16449 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 25 2008 at 19:00
I've only come across two albums that I would consider particularly bad. Quensrychs Operation: Mindcrime II and Supertramp's Even in the Quietist of Moments. Both strugle for a two star rating from me.
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Points: 5898 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 26 2008 at 03:51
Now after reading this thread I want to hear Torman Maxt. Confused
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Points: 21817 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 26 2008 at 04:43
Originally posted by faceofdoomness faceofdoomness wrote:


But be warned I am a pretty easy going guy with music. I love Mr. Bungle and actually have fallen asleep to their Disco Volante and had a really good night's sleep. It may be tough to actually suggest me a horrible prog album/ band. But I'll see how this will go.


Disco Volante is a great album ... I don't see the point. If by "horrifically bad" you simply mean "very experimental/unusual" then maybe you should rename the thread.Wink
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Points: 20766 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 26 2008 at 04:50
Originally posted by stonebeard stonebeard wrote:

(Ladies &..Ermm) Gentlemen, let me present:

http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=3718
 
Stoney, it only has a 1.62 rating because you gave it a 1 star rating as a Prog Reviewer...LOL
 
3 other forum members rated the album, one saying its a masterpiece, and the other two labelling it 'Good but non-essential'.  Although I've never heard the album, don't you think you were being a trifle harsh??Wink
 
 
On the subject of these threads, I really don't think they add much to this forum by way of constructive analysis, but from a personal level, it will probably be a very long time behore I hear anything quite as poor as 'Into The Electric Castle', 'Universal Migrator' or 'Star One: Space Metal'...words cannot really describe just how awful I find these albums to be...Embarrassed
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