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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 27 2008 at 09:12
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 27 2008 at 08:48
Originally posted by b_olariu b_olariu wrote:

Anything with Mars Volta or Porcupine Tree makes me run like hell, two of the worst bands i ever come across, desaster all the way. Specialy De loused.... from Mars and In dementia from Porcupine are for me real bad albums with nothing to offer.Wacko


Ha! In Absentia would probably be in my top 20 of all time!

I dont think I've heard any really terrible prog albums, but I guess everything I've heard by Dream Theater, I would describe as predictable and uninspired, but not 'horrifically bad' by any means.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 27 2008 at 05:45
Originally posted by laplace laplace wrote:


I've enjoyed everything I've heard by Thinking Plague and always thought that, of all the american Draky/Kermanish bands, they were one of the ones who least suffered from painful elaboration...


I got a little carried away. Its far from one of the worst albums of prog I know. Very far. I'm just not very fond of In this Life, and find most of the tracks totally unmemorable for the same reasons as Plainview. But Moonsongs, is which I mentioned is here. Still great but when I got this, I already had it on two other albums (but it seems my preferred version actually appeared here first. Oops).  

I prefer 5'uu's, especially Regarding Purgatories to most of Thinking Plague.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 27 2008 at 03:55
Originally posted by Raff Raff wrote:

Just a quick comment on a couple of the points you made in the above post... Neither Micky nor I said that Little Tragedies are objectively bad - just that they aren't our cup of tea. Yes, they are instrumentally proficient and all that, and their album will send lovers of retro-symph prog into fits of swooning delight... The trouble is, the kind of music they produce is, to our ears, trite, hackneyed, and way too long-winded. On the other hand, I love The Mars Volta, and found their latest release very enjoyable (though far from perfect), while there are people on this board who hate their very name.

As regards '90s Rush, I do enjoy those albums quite a lot, and gave 5 stars to Counterparts (possibly my favourite album by them). I would even be so bold as to say that I prefer latter-day Rush to what they did in the Seventies. That said, their '90s output is not really prog as we mean it, with some remarkable exceptions (namely their instrumental tracks) - so, if you expect those albums to sound like A Farewell to Kings, you'll be sorely disappointed.


That's the impression I kinda got off of when I read few of the comment regarding Little Tragedies... but perhaps I should have read those posts a bit more clearly or read them when I'm in a better state-of-mind. (I hate being tired. >:[ ) But didn't mean to sound like as if I was already criticizing them for their bad sound just because I thought that people told me that they were absolutely terrible... hmm I guess a thread name change is in order... in a way. :P

Also I love the Mars Volta, and also found their newer release to be a bit lacking but still energetically refurbished... in my opinion.

As for Rush, I  like their counterparts album.. when I was speaking about the Rush of the 90's I was more reffering to their Vapor Trails release which supposedly is their worst but I have yet to listen to it along with Test for Echo and (though not really 90s) Presto, Hold Your Fire, Roll the Bones and Power Windows.

And lets please refrain from bashing specific bands that many people may really like. (I like Porcupine Tree too by the way... I like their Fear of a Blank Planet release though) of course without a strong... reinforcement of such bashings? I dunno... I may not be a mod but I can still at least try to lessen any possible conflicts in this thread. Perhaps go a bit less on the blunt comments... right?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 27 2008 at 03:43
Anything with Mars Volta or Porcupine Tree makes me run like hell, two of the worst bands i ever come across, desaster all the way. Specialy De loused.... from Mars and In dementia from Porcupine are for me real bad albums with nothing to offer.Wacko
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 27 2008 at 03:37
Just a quick comment on a couple of the points you made in the above post... Neither Micky nor I said that Little Tragedies are objectively bad - just that they aren't our cup of tea. Yes, they are instrumentally proficient and all that, and their album will send lovers of retro-symph prog into fits of swooning delight... The trouble is, the kind of music they produce is, to our ears, trite, hackneyed, and way too long-winded. On the other hand, I love The Mars Volta, and found their latest release very enjoyable (though far from perfect), while there are people on this board who hate their very name.

As regards '90s Rush, I do enjoy those albums quite a lot, and gave 5 stars to Counterparts (possibly my favourite album by them). I would even be so bold as to say that I prefer latter-day Rush to what they did in the Seventies. That said, their '90s output is not really prog as we mean it, with some remarkable exceptions (namely their instrumental tracks) - so, if you expect those albums to sound like A Farewell to Kings, you'll be sorely disappointed.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 27 2008 at 03:27
Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

Disco Volante is a great album ... I don't see the point. If by "horrifically bad" you simply mean "very experimental/unusual" then maybe you should rename the thread.Wink


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I was merely providing an example of how wide my range of musical taste is... I love Disco Volante as well as other Mr. Bungle releases as well as a crapload of other subgenres of the ever growing progressive rock.... scene?

Well, from a quick read through of this thread I have a list of albums or bands that were considerd to be the worst from you guys.

Torman Maxt (the most suggested... now I'm really curious to know how they sound like. It'll be really ironic if I found this album to be even enjoyable seeing as how people dismiss their album!)

Little Tragedies (even the name somewhat suggest that listening to them will result in little tragedies of my ear drums crying. Strange that their albums have somewhat of a good rating. But never judge a book by the cover as many would say.)

Apollo's Apollo (as I look at their band picture I can't help my self but chuckle... they look ridiculously silly and uncomforatble in those costumes. <(  O)-(O )> )

and Fleur de Lis's Facing Morning.

In a way I feel excited for some reason to be venturing on to the ugly sides of progressive rock and it feels like it may be a bit of good ear training for any future albums that I may listen to that may be terrible. When such a record comes, I shall be ready for it. >:{D

Of course I shall have to check out Calling All Stations by Genesis and the infamous Love Beach by Emerson Lake and Palmer. And perhaps I should checkout some of Rush's albums that cames out in the nineties (my friends say those are some of the wort prog that they have heard... but we'll see)

If I am to come back from the journey alive, afterwards I shall listen to nothing but the good stuff.. or what I consider to be the good stuff. Hopefully my ears won't be too dead from their traumatizing experiences.

Also others may proceed to continue to suggest to me (in their opinion with a valid reason) the wosrt/ horiffic progressive band/ album ever.

As for the ones I skipped, I shall check them out later. Especially Ayreon. Only heard their Human Equations album.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 26 2008 at 05:23
Now, if I was convinced that "prog rock" was truly everything listed in these archives, then I'd have to name Protest the Hero's "Fortress" as the genre's lowlight - but I am not that deluded. ;P Instead, my vote's for Marillion's "Fugazi", doubly disappointing for being such a drab, predictable album by the band who were meant to be *thee* revivalists.

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Originally posted by Henry Plainview Henry Plainview wrote:

Oh yes, I forgot, Torman Maxt paid M@x good money to let us know that they are the worst prog metal you'll ever hear. And that they read CS Lewis. Most amusing.

I would nominate In This Life by Thinking Plague as the worst Avant-prog, and probably one of the worst albums of prog in general. Maybe their other albums are better, but this album sounds like a regular rock band that isn't allowed to play any consonant harmonies or play in 4/4, with a singer who desperately wishes she could sound like Dagmar. That is not what prog is about. That they appear to think they are the best avant-prog band in the world doesn't help either.
That's very precise. There's other albums and tracks I really enjoy by them. Moonsongs from 87 (both early years and original versions) is pretty amazing, but doesn't sound like This Life at all. I like a lot of his music but, some Dave Kerman related bands and projects has that forced weirdness/complexity/unatural feel that great Avant/RIO doesn't have.


ah, that's a shame, I've enjoyed everything I've heard by Thinking Plague and always thought that, of all the american Draky/Kermanish bands, they were one of the ones who least suffered from painful elaboration...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 26 2008 at 04:50
Originally posted by stonebeard stonebeard wrote:

(Ladies &..Ermm) Gentlemen, let me present:

http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=3718
 
Stoney, it only has a 1.62 rating because you gave it a 1 star rating as a Prog Reviewer...LOL
 
3 other forum members rated the album, one saying its a masterpiece, and the other two labelling it 'Good but non-essential'.  Although I've never heard the album, don't you think you were being a trifle harsh??Wink
 
 
On the subject of these threads, I really don't think they add much to this forum by way of constructive analysis, but from a personal level, it will probably be a very long time behore I hear anything quite as poor as 'Into The Electric Castle', 'Universal Migrator' or 'Star One: Space Metal'...words cannot really describe just how awful I find these albums to be...Embarrassed
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 26 2008 at 04:43
Originally posted by faceofdoomness faceofdoomness wrote:


But be warned I am a pretty easy going guy with music. I love Mr. Bungle and actually have fallen asleep to their Disco Volante and had a really good night's sleep. It may be tough to actually suggest me a horrible prog album/ band. But I'll see how this will go.


Disco Volante is a great album ... I don't see the point. If by "horrifically bad" you simply mean "very experimental/unusual" then maybe you should rename the thread.Wink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 26 2008 at 03:51
Now after reading this thread I want to hear Torman Maxt. Confused
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 25 2008 at 19:00
I've only come across two albums that I would consider particularly bad. Quensrychs Operation: Mindcrime II and Supertramp's Even in the Quietist of Moments. Both strugle for a two star rating from me.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 25 2008 at 15:13
Not horrible by any means, but incredibly boring and dull is Fleur De Lisīs Facing Morning... but itīs not bad music, itīs just very uninteresting...

Torman Maxt, that is pretty crappy... jejeje I like it how they have some possitive reviews in their Myspace site that seem almost written by themself. I canīt imagine a true progger really lovinī it...

Also, not horrible (I think I donņt really have a very horrible album) is Maldororīs l`arbre cimetiere. I canīt point out my finger why that is. But the music is just so, again, uninteresting
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 25 2008 at 04:45
Originally posted by Henry Plainview Henry Plainview wrote:

 Oh yes, I forgot, Torman Maxt paid M@x good money to let us know that they are the worst prog metal you'll ever hear. And that they read CS Lewis. Most amusing.
 
I would nominate In This Life by Thinking Plague as the worst Avant-prog, and probably one of the worst albums of prog in general. Maybe their other albums are better, but this album sounds like a regular rock band that isn't allowed to play any consonant harmonies or play in 4/4, with a singer who desperately wishes she could sound like Dagmar. That is not what prog is about. That they appear to think they are the best avant-prog band in the world doesn't help either.


That's very precise. There's other albums and tracks I really enjoy by them. Moonsongs from 87 (both early years and original versions) is pretty amazing, but doesn't sound like This Life at all.

I like a lot of his music but, some Dave Kerman related bands and projects has that forced weirdness/complexity/unatural feel that great Avant/RIO doesn't have.

Acqua Fragile is the worst Genesis ripoff among quite a few awful ones. Umemorable songs and a Peter Gabriel soundalike but with a serious constipation problem (pressing the words out) a bad accent and very silly lyrics. 

There's some even worse Zucchero-soundalike (also with the constipation) vocalist, in a band from Mexico I can't remember their name right now. Their music was cheesy, thin symphonic anno 1981 (that's neo, I guess)


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 25 2008 at 04:32
I find something good, even a spot, in every prog band.
I usually dig in and listen to anything before I discard it. And it is very difficult for me to discard a band thoroughly. The light can be found behind every corner...
Of course there are bands I listen to every day with more than psycological and physical pleasure but other times I wip myself with strange stuff, such as Brazilian prog bands or new new progressive, trying not to be prejudiced towards them thus giving them a chance to get into my mood. I confess that sometimes it's too tough even for a good chap like me, but I don't give up. Mainl when I listen to them for the first times (up to 10 to 12 before expressing a sentence!).
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 25 2008 at 04:13
Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

instead of bashing a whole genre why not cite specific albums, as per the thread starters request


Because the list may be too long LOL
 
Seriously, I cannot relate to specific band or album, because if its to bad I tend to forget it immediatly, but I could say that prog to be carful with is: too monontonious, without something interesting in it, too bombastic with no real feeling, and bad vocalists, that could ruin any music. Be carful with that kind of prog. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 25 2008 at 04:12
As Raff says, this thread is in danger of simply becoming a succession of posts bashing a band, an album or a genre.
 
Let's keep any critisim constructuve and avoid being insulting.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 25 2008 at 02:31
i remember to slam about a Edhels album.. that was Oriental Christmas.




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 25 2008 at 02:21
I'm afraid this is quickly going to become nothing more than a bashing threadUnhappy....

Being very selective in my purchases, I have rarely come across a REALLY bad prog album  - even though, of course, there are many that just don't do anything for me. That doesn't mean they're bad at all.. It's just to do with personal taste. However, I remember that Russian band, Little Tragedies, with something close to horror... They were deadly boring (the worst musical sin in my book), and anything but original.
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