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Negoba
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Posted: February 23 2009 at 11:55 |
I was the perfect age for this album, in high school (class of 90) you either liked Heavy Metal or New Wave although those categories were stupid as bands from Bon Jovi to Yngwie Malmsteen to Slayer were Heavy Metal and New Order to Sisters of Mercy to Ministry were placed under New Wave in our adolescent minds. Hair Metal was so spent, and though U2 and REM were putting out good music, they were established acts. Soundgarden, Faith No More, a few bands were lurking, but then Nirvana hit. They combined New Wave, Punk, and Metal into one sound, and suddenly (at least in the HS/College music culture I was part of) some of the artificial categorizations got blown apart. It's cultural significance was monumental. It is hard to think of a single album with more cultural significance (Never Mind the Bollocks????) though other groups are bigger.
Nevermind is good music too. I personally think Cobain had a limited range of creativity, and was already stretching it by In Utero, and he was doomed early on, but what he did was original and good.
Grunge in general is a totally different, bigger discussion.
Edited by Negoba - February 23 2009 at 11:56
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You are quite a fine person, and I am very fond of you. But you are only quite a little fellow, in a wide world, after all.
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crimson87
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Posted: February 23 2009 at 12:24 |
I really liked nevermind 4 years ago when I has into grunge. Now I think that Alice in chains ( I love Jar of Flies) , Pearl jAM and Stone temple Pilots are far superior. Still , I need to hear it one more time to see how it aged.
Also I need to hear Smashing Pumpkins who are said to be the proggiest act of the scene.
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Toaster Mantis
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Location: Denmark
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Posted: February 23 2009 at 13:26 |
heyitsthatguy wrote:
Nirvana's allright better than every hair metal band in existence at least
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WASP would like to have a word with you.  As for Nirvana, I've begun to appreciate them when separated from the way they were hyped the be-all, end-all of rock'n'roll because they definitely weren't but their "1960s garage rock on the worst heroin overdose ever" shtick does have its charm.
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"The past is not some static being, it is not a previous present, nor a present that has passed away; the past has its own dynamic being which is constantly renewed and renewing." - Claire Colebrook
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clarke2001
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Posted: February 23 2009 at 13:59 |
I never liked grunge too much, and I'm not too fond of Nirvana's Nevermind neither, I like a couple of songs from that album, however, I respect it a lot. It's a cornerstone of one generation, it helped killing the synthpop of the 80's and it had brought electric guitar to the forefront again.
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CPicard
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Posted: February 23 2009 at 14:24 |
As anybody who was a teenager in the 90's, I was exposed to the rays of Nirvana's "Nevermind". Yet, I never heard the whole album and I still haven't bought it. In 1993/1994, I didn't feel like buying it, because there were all the singles on the radio. When Cobain killed himself, I didn't buy any record from Nirvana: I don't like necrophiliac cults. And I started to see younger people who were young children wearing t-shirts with the portrait of Cobain, I still could not buy anything from Nirvana.
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micky
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Posted: February 23 2009 at 14:35 |
clarke2001 wrote:
I never liked grunge too much, and I'm not too fond of Nirvana's Nevermind neither, I like a couple of songs from that album, however, I respect it a lot. It's a cornerstone of one generation, it helped killing the synthpop of the 80's and it had brought electric guitar to the forefront again.
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yepper.... that is why I disagree with those who call it 'overrated' it was a revolutionary album... whether one likes it or not... the facts be what they be...
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The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: February 23 2009 at 15:16 |
CPicard wrote:
As anybody who was a teenager in the 90's, I was exposed to the rays of Nirvana's "Nevermind". Yet, I never heard the whole album and I still haven't bought it. In 1993/1994, I didn't feel like buying it, because there were all the singles on the radio. When Cobain killed himself, I didn't buy any record from Nirvana: I don't like necrophiliac cults. And I started to see younger people who were young children wearing t-shirts with the portrait of Cobain, I still could not buy anything from Nirvana.
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I got a copy used in '99, very cheap. Still if you were to have only one, I'd recommend In Utero, which can also be had used very cheap.
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Moogtron III
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Posted: February 23 2009 at 15:16 |
I have Nevermind and I like it, but I have a rule that I only listen to half of the cd in one listening session. Not because the music is too intense, but because the cd has too little diversity to sit the whole thing out.
Having said that: I have to say that Kurt Cobain was a good song writer, much better than he was usually credited for. People always looked at the surface things, the stuff that gets into the press. Cobain was talented, also as a lyricist, and history has proven that Dave Grohl has some talent as well.
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keiser willhelm
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Posted: February 23 2009 at 15:39 |
i like it. Cobain was a talented song writer and penned some of the bands best work in this album (polly, drain you, Lithium, Breed) but i dont love it. 3.5 stars? maybe. i like in Utero better I am a much bigger fan of Soundgarden and alice in chains and would take ANY one of their albums over anything nirvana ever did.
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Philéas
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Posted: February 23 2009 at 16:54 |
I like it, it's a good album. Not great, but solid.
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The Miracle
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Posted: February 23 2009 at 17:19 |
It's not bad I guess but I don't care for it or their other albums at all. I think Alice In Chains' Dirt owns it on all accounts. One of my all time favorites...
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Philéas
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Posted: February 23 2009 at 18:03 |
The Miracle wrote:
It's not bad I guess but I don't care for it or their other albums at all. I think Alice In Chains' Dirt owns it on all accounts. One of my all time favorites...
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Agreed!
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zappaholic
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Posted: February 23 2009 at 19:47 |
Not the best record ever, and certainly overplayed, but I do like it.
Plus, without Nirvana, the Foo Fighters might not have happened.
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"Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard." -- H.L. Mencken
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WalterDigsTunes
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Posted: February 23 2009 at 19:52 |
zappaholic wrote:
Plus, without Nirvana, the Foo Fighters might not have happened.
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Double fail
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crimhead
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Posted: February 23 2009 at 21:12 |
zappaholic wrote:
Not the best record ever, and certainly overplayed, but I do like it.
Plus, without Nirvana, the Foo Fighters might not have happened.
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Without The Melvins, Nirvana might not have happened.
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jammun
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Posted: February 23 2009 at 21:32 |
crimhead wrote:
zappaholic wrote:
Not the best record ever, and certainly overplayed, but I do like it.
Plus, without Nirvana, the Foo Fighters might not have happened.
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Without The Melvins, Nirvana might not have happened. |
Without The Wipers, The Melvins might not have happened.
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Pnoom!
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Posted: February 23 2009 at 21:56 |
Without The Stooges, the Wipers might not have happened
Without The Velvet Underground, The Stooges might not have happened.
This is fun.
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BroSpence
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Posted: February 24 2009 at 19:08 |
I enjoy the album that came before, and the album that came after. But do not enjoy the album of this poll.
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Equality 7-2521
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Posted: February 24 2009 at 19:21 |
In Utero is better, but I don't care for either. I'd probably go as far to say I hate Nevermind, but grunge overall isn't much of my thing besides AiC and STP.
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"One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. "
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darkshade
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Posted: February 24 2009 at 19:40 |
without people, music would never have happened. there it's over
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