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mattmcl 
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 Topic: Did Michael Jackson influence prog?Posted: June 26 2009 at 10:03 |
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So the debate raging in my office this morning is whether he was the biggest influence on music since The Beatles. I said, no, he didn't influence mine. I honestly can't think of ANY way he put his mark on prog. Thoughts?
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someone_else
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Posted: June 26 2009 at 10:08 |
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If he did, prog would probably follow the same ruinous path down the drain...
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Roland113
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Posted: June 26 2009 at 10:08 |
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-------someone please tell him to delete this line, he looks like a noob-------
I don't have an unnatural obsession with Disney Princesses, I have a fourteen year old daughter and coping mechanisms. |
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Negoba
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Joined: July 24 2008 Location: Big Muddy Status: Offline Points: 5210 |
Posted: June 26 2009 at 10:12 |
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Umm, no. Maybe Stevie Wonder...not Jackson.
Although his vocal style is the most influential single voice on R&B singers' styles since the early eighties.
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You are quite a fine person, and I am very fond of you. But you are only quite a little fellow, in a wide world, after all.
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Easy Money
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Posted: June 26 2009 at 10:12 |
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Sure, Genesis.
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: June 26 2009 at 10:12 |
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Oh no, not another MJ thread.
Zing! Edited by Slartibartfast - June 26 2009 at 13:04 |
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Logan
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Posted: June 26 2009 at 10:13 |
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I say yes, he has influenced progressive rock acts. CLICK
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Watching while most appreciating a sunset in the moment need not diminish all the glorious sunsets I have observed before. It can be much like that with music for me.
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Snow Dog
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Posted: June 26 2009 at 10:16 |
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No.
he influenced pop.
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toroddfuglesteg
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Posted: June 26 2009 at 10:17 |
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Michael Jackson was like Elvis Presley: The end product of a long development. Michael Jackson came from the funk, gospel, soul, pop and disco tradition. He merged all that into his music. Add Quincy Jones's production and you have Thriller, Bad, Off The Wall and all his other releases. The common thing about Michael Jackson is that his music originated from the cotton fields, the suburbs and the colored tradition. Which is excellent. Respect is due. Prog rock is a white middle class thing which originates from the high schools in England, Italy, USA and Canada. Prog rock is a nerdy thing, done by the social outcasts who were sitting alone in the corner when the rest of the class was dancing to the likes of Michael Jackson. Sex (=Michael Jackson) and prog rock has never mixed. Michael Jackson has had no influence on prog rock. That's my thesis as a no-sex nerd. |
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GaryB
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Posted: June 26 2009 at 10:43 |
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To me, MJ's music was based on R&B, pop and rock. Even though these styles of music influenced Prog, I think it's a stretch to say that he personally influenced Prog. Many artists at the time were incorporating these styles into their music so why single out MJ? Just because he died? I suooose that if OJ had a couple of Genesis or Pink Floyd CDs in his white Bronco we would be discussing him around here.
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BaldFriede
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Posted: June 26 2009 at 10:54 |
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I think his videos were a big influence on the presentation of music, not on the music itself. Music videos would not be what they are today without his influence.
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 BaldJean and I; I am the one in blue. |
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ClemofNazareth
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Posted: June 26 2009 at 11:34 |
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WTF?
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"Peace is the only battle worth waging."
Albert Camus |
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meptune
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Posted: June 26 2009 at 12:52 |
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Maybe (and this is a streatch) maybe prog influenced MJ, but certainly not the other way around.
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"Arf, she said" |
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Ivan_Melgar_M
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Posted: June 26 2009 at 12:59 |
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Oh please come on!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The next thing will be suggesting him for Prog Related.
 Iván Edited by Ivan_Melgar_M - June 26 2009 at 13:27 |
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lazland
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Posted: June 26 2009 at 13:00 |
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This poor, deluded, sad man had as much influence on prog as I've had on glamour modelling.
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: June 26 2009 at 13:03 |
He's a cone head...  |
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Green Shield Stamp
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Posted: June 26 2009 at 13:25 |
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He influenced Prog to about the same extent as Val Doonican (.......not much then)
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rushfan4
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Posted: June 26 2009 at 13:33 |
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One of the first times that I saw Rush live, near the end of the show they played Wipeout and Alex Lifeson pretended he was riding a surfboard. Their comment was that this was for their critics who claim that they were too boring just standing in one place playing their music. So maybe that little "dance" was influenced by Michael Jackson's concert choreography; or at least it influenced the criticism of the boring just stand there rock bands. |
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JLocke
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Posted: June 26 2009 at 13:52 |
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Icarium
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Posted: June 26 2009 at 13:58 |
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i think many of his songs have an Epic feel like Earth Song, and he was under the record label Epic Records
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