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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 26 2009 at 14:44
Michael Jackson apparently used to listen to fusion and owned an ISOTOPE album.This was back in the seventies of course.It was all down hill from there.LOL
I do have some appreciation and respect for Stevie Wonder's music,can't say the same for Michael regardless of how talented he was.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 26 2009 at 14:28
Originally posted by aginor aginor wrote:

Originally posted by StyLaZyn StyLaZyn wrote:

I can't believe this thread. Does Eminem influence Jazz?


Michal Jakson is a much bigger force in the music universe then Eminem, Eminem is reaching Jackson to his anckles.
 and hade a much longer career from 1968 - 2001/09 including both Jackson 5 and solo as a bass player i find a lot of the Jackson 5s bass lines to be some of the best in the buisness. i dont now hwo play bass its ether on of the jacksons ot James Jamersen

I will agree with you that MJ had more influence that Eminem ever will.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 26 2009 at 14:18
Originally posted by StyLaZyn StyLaZyn wrote:

I can't believe this thread. Does Eminem influence Jazz?


Michal Jakson is a much bigger force in the music universe then Eminem, Eminem is reaching Jackson to his anckles.
 and hade a much longer career from 1968 - 2001/09 including both Jackson 5 and solo as a bass player i find a lot of the Jackson 5s bass lines to be some of the best in the buisness. i dont now hwo play bass its ether on of the jacksons ot James Jamersen
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 26 2009 at 14:18
Somehow I had a feeling there was going to be a "Is Michael Jackson prog?" thread. LOL

My answer is simply no, not at all. He was not 'prog' in any way. He was a pop artist.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 26 2009 at 14:17
hahahhah.  Yeah...same with Willie Nelson. 

to stay in the spirit of the thread... and forgetting prog completely.  It is a NITCH genre of music.  The fact that neither have anything to do with prog in NO way diminishes their greatness .. or influence on music at all.  Prog is a boil on the ass of music at large.  A pleasant one... but insignificant in the grand scheme of things.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 26 2009 at 14:12
there are differnt deffinitian in my head disribing epic (HIS NOT PROG OR RELATED)
1. 10-20 minus songs
2. big poverfull music, slove pace, majestic drums.
3 synth or orchestras in the background, hartfelt singing
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 26 2009 at 14:09
I can't believe this thread. Does Eminem influence Jazz?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 26 2009 at 14:00
Originally posted by aginor aginor wrote:

i think many of his songs have an Epic feel like Earth Song, and he was under the record label Epic Records 


Epic =/= Prog
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 26 2009 at 13:58
i think many of his songs have an Epic feel like Earth Song, and he was under the record label Epic Records 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 26 2009 at 13:52
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 26 2009 at 13:33

One of the first times that I saw Rush live, near the end of the show they played Wipeout and Alex Lifeson pretended he was riding a surfboard.  Their comment was that this was for their critics who claim that they were too boring just standing in one place playing their music.  So maybe that little "dance" was influenced by Michael Jackson's concert choreography; or at least it influenced the criticism of the boring just stand there rock bands.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 26 2009 at 13:25
He influenced Prog to about the same extent as Val Doonican (.......not much then)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 26 2009 at 13:03
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Oh please cone on!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 26 2009 at 13:00
This poor, deluded, sad man had as much influence on prog as I've had on glamour modelling.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 26 2009 at 12:59
Oh please come on!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 26 2009 at 12:52
Maybe (and this is a streatch) maybe prog influenced MJ, but certainly not the other way around.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 26 2009 at 11:34

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 26 2009 at 10:54
I think his videos were a big influence on the presentation of music, not on the music itself. Music videos would not be what they are today without his influence.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 26 2009 at 10:43

To me, MJ's music was based on R&B, pop and rock. Even though these styles of music influenced Prog, I think it's a stretch to say that he personally influenced Prog. Many artists at the time were incorporating these styles into their music so why single out MJ? Just because he died?

I suooose that if OJ had a couple of Genesis or Pink Floyd CDs in his white Bronco we would be discussing him around here.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 26 2009 at 10:17

Michael Jackson was like Elvis Presley: The end product of a long development. Michael Jackson came from the funk, gospel, soul, pop and disco tradition. He merged all that into his music. Add Quincy Jones's production and you have Thriller, Bad, Off The Wall and all his other releases.

The common thing about Michael Jackson is that his music originated from the cotton fields, the suburbs and the colored tradition. Which is excellent. Respect is due. Prog rock is a white middle class thing which originates from the high schools in England, Italy, USA and Canada. Prog rock is a nerdy thing, done by the social outcasts who were sitting alone in the corner when the rest of the class was dancing to the likes of Michael Jackson. Sex (=Michael Jackson) and prog rock has never mixed.

Michael Jackson has had no influence on prog rock. That's my thesis as a no-sex nerd.    

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