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progkidjoel 
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 Posted: June 26 2009 at 21:49 |
 toroddfuglesteg wrote:
Michael Jackson has had no influence on prog rock. That's my thesis as a no-sex nerd. |
I agree completely 
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micky
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Posted: June 26 2009 at 21:17 |
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oh fun..... maybe the dude can use you as an agent... his current one sucks. He might try a country-western forum next.
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The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip
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Easy Money
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Posted: June 26 2009 at 21:15 |
 oh well, I'm more into the fresh like Mayer thread now anyway.
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micky
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Posted: June 26 2009 at 21:10 |
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I did.... that was the discussion he was having with the other guy.. not whether MJ was an influence on prog.. but whether his lack of influence on prog kept him from being considered AS influential on music as the Beatles were.
that might just me though... that's how I read it....
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Easy Money
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Posted: June 26 2009 at 21:01 |
micky wrote:
oh brother... no wonder this site has a reputation for being a black hole for real musical discussion.the question is NOT whether Michael Jackson influenced prog.... but whether his lack of influence in it keeps him from being considered as influential as an artist like the Beatles.
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I think you need to read the initial post again.
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micky
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Posted: June 26 2009 at 20:34 |
markosherrera wrote:
All that made Mike jackson in music was invented before,he was good in his style ,but not original,except maybe in his way of sing
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so what.... music is visceral... not intellectual. Prog fans have the reputation they do for trying TO MAKE what is meant to stimulate and provoke emotions... into something that it not meant to be..an intellectual exercise. That is what books for are for. Music is made for enjoyment.... nothing less.. nothing more. Who cares if he was not original. The point was...and always has been... can an artist make great music.
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Atavachron
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Posted: June 26 2009 at 20:28 |
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I thought prog influenced him
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markosherrera
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Posted: June 26 2009 at 20:27 |
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All that made Mike jackson in music was invented before,he was good in his style ,but not original,except maybe in his way of sing
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Hi progmaniacs of all the world
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micky
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Posted: June 26 2009 at 20:26 |
^ exactly Jim. He is in the ballpark with the greatest of all. That is why we are all talking about him... that is why EVERYONE has been...all over the world. Don't kid yourself that it is because of the last years of his life... at a time like this... all that is forgotten... and everyone remembers just why he became the legend he was.
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jammun
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Posted: June 26 2009 at 20:23 |
markosherrera wrote:
Like the Beatles? ,...never |
The Beatles influence cast a wider net. But I'd think one could make an argument (I won't, not here) that the progression of POP music influence goes something like Elvis, The Beatles, Michael Jackson.
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Can you tell me where we're headin'?
Lincoln County Road or Armageddon.
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micky
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Posted: June 26 2009 at 20:21 |
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in that point I agree... and probably most would. While Michael Jackson does have a massive influence on popular music... it doesn't compare to the Beatles. If anyone bothered to read the original post... that was the question. Not whether Michael Jackson influenced prog. That was part of the OP's point... that he didn't...Duh....
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markosherrera
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Posted: June 26 2009 at 20:18 |
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Like the Beatles? ,...never
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Hi progmaniacs of all the world
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micky
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Posted: June 26 2009 at 20:15 |
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oh brother... no wonder this site has a reputation for being a black hole for real musical discussion.
the question is NOT whether Michael Jackson influenced prog.... but whether his lack of influence in it keeps him from being considered as influential as an artist like the Beatles.
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markosherrera
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Posted: June 26 2009 at 20:07 |
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In some soft songs he was influenced by bossanova ,jazzsoul,but not prog ,.
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Hi progmaniacs of all the world
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The T
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Posted: June 26 2009 at 19:08 |
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I nominate Michael Jackson for Symphonic Prog... if we ever do multi-genre, an "avant-garde" gtag would also fit...
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American Khatru
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Posted: June 26 2009 at 19:04 |
mattmcl wrote:
So the debate raging in my office this morning is whether he was the biggest influence on music since The Beatles. I said, no, he didn't influence mine. I honestly can't think of ANY way he put his mark on prog. Thoughts?
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You can't think of ANY way because there IS no way. No. I'm curious. You say the debate was raging and you "said" MJ had no influence on your kind of music. When you said that, what did they say? Did anyone say, "yeah, he probably didn't have much influence in Prague." Seriously, what was their reaction?
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 Why must my spell-checker continually underline the word "prog"?
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J-Man
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Posted: June 26 2009 at 18:57 |
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He's a pop musician. There's no way in hell a guy who does the moonwalk on stage influenced progressive rock.
I don't mind some of his music, but influencing prog? You've got to be kidding.
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jammun
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Posted: June 26 2009 at 18:45 |
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He had about as much influence on prog as Farrah Fawcett.
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Can you tell me where we're headin'?
Lincoln County Road or Armageddon.
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Evolver
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Posted: June 26 2009 at 16:53 |
While Frank Zappa did have his band play Billie Jean on stage, I wouldn't go as far as saying it influenced him.
OTOH, I would say that Michael Jackson had a profound influence on comedy.
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tamijo
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Posted: June 26 2009 at 16:28 |
Hell no, not even now that he is suddently interesting again 
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