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Points: 3449 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 16 2010 at 22:19
Originally posted by MovingPictures07 MovingPictures07 wrote:

Originally posted by J-Man J-Man wrote:

I only have Trout Mask Replica, and after 3 or 4 listens I'm not that impressed. I sense that it's a grower, though.


It's definitely a grower.
It's a grower in that still after 40 years I can't listen to in one sitting.  Funny, my son doesn't have that problem with it.  But it does grow on ya, I just need it in smaller chunks.
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I like Clear Spot the best, which is also probably his most accessible.

I think that the important thing is that I'm still trying to "get into". And will. Hell, I even started to like Death Metal :-D

If this one you can recommend to "newbie", so be it. I'm in.
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I think Cpt.Beefheart is similar case as Zappa: he has some excellent albums, some great albums and some his works are total disaster. One of most accesible (but really clever) entrance to CB music is As Safe As Milk (if you don't afraid of some vintage sound, it's late 60-s, come on!)
 
 Trout Mask Replica is briliant,but possibly most contraversial CB album. I believe it's better way to go step by step. If you will stoo somewhere by the way (listening other ,more accessible CB works) - so don't try to shock yourself with  Trout Mask Replica. If you will like them more and more - than try this. But again - if you don't like Zappaesque way of thinking in music, just leave Cpt.Beefheart avant albums alone. By the way, he has many bluesy and other quite boring mainstream albums as well.
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Originally posted by snobb snobb wrote:

I think Cpt.Beefheart is similar case as Zappa: he has some excellent albums, some great albums and some his works are total disaster. One of most accesible (but really clever) entrance to CB music is As Safe As Milk (if you don't afraid of some vintage sound, it's late 60-s, come on!)
 
 Trout Mask Replica is briliant,but possibly most contraversial CB album. I believe it's better way to go step by step. If you will stoo somewhere by the way (listening other ,more accessible CB works) - so don't try to shock yourself with  Trout Mask Replica. If you will like them more and more - than try this. But again - if you don't like Zappaesque way of thinking in music, just leave Cpt.Beefheart avant albums alone. By the way, he has many bluesy and other quite boring mainstream albums as well.
 
I think that Mirror Man is an accesible album, if you like loooong songs.
 
 




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Originally posted by Alberto Muņoz Alberto Muņoz wrote:

Originally posted by snobb snobb wrote:

I think Cpt.Beefheart is similar case as Zappa: he has some excellent albums, some great albums and some his works are total disaster. One of most accesible (but really clever) entrance to CB music is As Safe As Milk (if you don't afraid of some vintage sound, it's late 60-s, come on!)
 
 Trout Mask Replica is briliant,but possibly most contraversial CB album. I believe it's better way to go step by step. If you will stoo somewhere by the way (listening other ,more accessible CB works) - so don't try to shock yourself with  Trout Mask Replica. If you will like them more and more - than try this. But again - if you don't like Zappaesque way of thinking in music, just leave Cpt.Beefheart avant albums alone. By the way, he has many bluesy and other quite boring mainstream albums as well.
 
I think that Mirror Man is an accesible album, if you like loooong songs.
 
 


It's Prog Archives. We all like loooooong songs. Tongue
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Originally posted by jammun jammun wrote:

Originally posted by MovingPictures07 MovingPictures07 wrote:

Originally posted by J-Man J-Man wrote:

I only have Trout Mask Replica, and after 3 or 4 listens I'm not that impressed. I sense that it's a grower, though.


It's definitely a grower.
It's a grower in that still after 40 years I can't listen to in one sitting.  Funny, my son doesn't have that problem with it.  But it does grow on ya, I just need it in smaller chunks.
I never could get into Trout Mask Replica, and that kept me away from the good Captain for a very long time.  But then I discovered Lick My Decals Off, Baby, and that opened up Beefheart's world to me.
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Okay, checked Amazon.  At least here in the U.S., you can still get The Spotlight Kid/Clear Spot doubled up on a single CD for a mere $13.99. 
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I love the good Cap'n because he took a form of music that I don't particularly enjoy (delta blues type stuff) and injected with a) his own inimitable vocal and poetic capabilities and b) the Magic Band who were brilliant.
 
I like TMR best I think, but some of the later stuff with Gary Lucas is great too.
 
I was lucky enough to see the latter-day Magic Band with the Captain at Loughborough Univerisity in about 1980 and they were without a doubt, the tightest band I have ever seen. Nuff said.
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Originally posted by jacob s cracker jacob s cracker wrote:

 
I was lucky enough to see the latter-day Magic Band with the Captain at Loughborough Univerisity in about 1980 and they were without a doubt, the tightest band I have ever seen. Nuff said.
 
Interesting you saw that gig. Gary Lucas who roadied for CB/MB and played a few tunes in that line up, has been after the rumoured bootleg recorded at that particular gig, for Beefheart archives.  So are we at Loughborough SU Ents. (Yes we known about Mersey Trout from the same UK tour - but Lucas doesn't rate it highly). Anybody come across the  Loughborough recording?


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Lick My Decals Off, Baby is my favorite.
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Mirror man is genius: the instrumental parts of (i.e. most of the song) Kandy Korn are absolutely transcendent and the title track has a wicked groove. TMR is a fine album, but it does not have as much instumental beauty that some of Beafheart’s other albums have, it’s dissonant with a lot of spoken word type of lyrics; in the end it leaves me wanting more. Albums like Clear Spot or Shiny Beast are better, I think, in that there is a mix of different kinds of song.
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Points: 81 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 23 2010 at 14:16
As others have said, Clear Spot and Spotlight Kid are good starting places; Big Eyed Beans is an all-time great song. I saw them live at their peak in San Francisco, but their stage show was nothing special, so the recordings are the best memory.
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Safe as milk with great songs as abba zabba electricity yellow brick road, etc is great.
Mirror man is also great.
Trout Mask is a klittle bit too much and the band seems to play...not so good.
Spotlight kid is great more accesible but really enjoyable.
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I actually found Trout Mask Replica to be disappointing. Not that it was a bad album - in fact, it's pretty good - but by the time I bought it, I was beginning to get accustomed to this style of music. So instead of having a "Wow, this guy's a genius!" or "Man, this is trash!" reaction, I ended up thinking "Oh, this is pretty nice".

Nonetheless, he's one of the better obscurities of the60s, 70s and 80s, though I recommend starting with something lightweight like Safe As Milk first.
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Originally posted by KingCrInuYasha KingCrInuYasha wrote:

I actually found Trout Mask Replica to be disappointing. Not that it was a bad album - in fact, it's pretty good - but by the time I bought it, I was beginning to get accustomed to this style of music. So instead of having a "Wow, this guy's a genius!" or "Man, this is trash!" reaction, I ended up thinking "Oh, this is pretty nice".

Nonetheless, he's one of the better obscurities of the60s, 70s and 80s, though I recommend starting with something lightweight like Safe As Milk first.

Not sure if I'd call him an obscurity, TMR is #58 on Rolling Stone's top 500 albums of all time list. Tongue
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Originally posted by SaltyJon SaltyJon wrote:

Originally posted by KingCrInuYasha KingCrInuYasha wrote:

I actually found Trout Mask Replica to be disappointing. Not that it was a bad album - in fact, it's pretty good - but by the time I bought it, I was beginning to get accustomed to this style of music. So instead of having a "Wow, this guy's a genius!" or "Man, this is trash!" reaction, I ended up thinking "Oh, this is pretty nice".

Nonetheless, he's one of the better obscurities of the60s, 70s and 80s, though I recommend starting with something lightweight like Safe As Milk first.

Not sure if I'd call him an obscurity, TMR is #58 on Rolling Stone's top 500 albums of all time list. Tongue
 
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Yeah, it doesn't make a lot of sense, but I'm not going to complain. LOL
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Originally posted by SaltyJon SaltyJon wrote:

Yeah, it doesn't make a lot of sense, but I'm not going to complain. LOL

It doesn't make sense to me either, especially when I think TMR is too long. LOL
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If you like TMR and haven't yet listened to Lick my Decals off, Baby, you need to. IMO it is as good if not better than TMR.
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Originally posted by Evolver Evolver wrote:

Shiny Beast (Bat Chain Puller) is my favorite.


Ditto.
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