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Points: 37575 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 01 2010 at 21:07
Originally posted by Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

Hey Dean, I mentioned British member dismissing USA bands, and that had happend lots of times. Only one use Pork Burgers, and honestly thought he was British but never said many members used the term pork burgers,
And I never said many members either Geek
 
You said "a couple British members (Not you) atacking USA Prog as second class, and calling bands as Kansas "Pork Burger""  - so as a Brit I wanted to know who those two Brit members were since I've never seen that term used. I don't doubt that some people have made derogatory comments about USA prog band, but not exclusively Brit members, I have seen American members being derogatory about Kansas and Saga too. (yeah, I know, Saga are Canadian)
 
NB: in the UK "a couple" always means "two" - in the US it means "a few" - it never means "one".
 
Originally posted by Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

 
But there have been many derogatory mentions of bands like Kansas, Styx or even Pavlov's Dog as Pomp Rock.
I've seen ELP, Genesis and Yes described as Pomp Rock in the music press so it's not aimed specifically at USA bands.
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Now the term AOR is really official, it's used in broadcasting, it's even taught in Broadcasting or Communication programs, so if it's taken and changed the meaning, is a missuse IMO.
If it is used in broadcasting then it refers to a format of radio and not a style of music (as per the OP original question) - just as Progressive rock Radio format should not be confused with Progressive Rock.
 
You can't change history - since it was known as Adult Oriented Rock in the UK and Europe in the mid-70s then that is what it was known as in the 70s in the UK and Europe, regardless of what it meant in the USA or what it meant in the 80s, 90s and beyond. The meaning may have changed as it crossed the Atlantic but that is not misuse - quite the contrary - we didn't have masses of FM radio stations broadcasting album tracks like the USA, (and still don't), so its meaning over here could only refer to the bands themselves and not the radio stations that played their music.
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Points: 19557 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 01 2010 at 21:17
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

If it is used in broadcasting then it refers to a format of radio and not a style of music (as per the OP original question) - just as Progressive rock Radio format should not be confused with Progressive Rock.
 
 
Lately you are debating a lot, but no problem.
 
As a fact AOR was used botg as Album oriented Rock and Album Oriented Radio.
 
I belñieve the correct term for Adult Oriented Rock is Adult Contemporary.............But st
 
 
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

You can't change history - since it was known as Adult Oriented Rock in the UK and Europe in the mid-70s then that is what it was known as in the 70s in the UK and Europe, regardless of what it meant in the USA or what it meant in the 80s, 90s and beyond. The meaning may have changed as it crossed the Atlantic but that is not misuse - quite the contrary - we didn't have masses of FM radio stations broadcasting album tracks like the USA, (and still don't), so its meaning over here could only refer to the bands themselves and not the radio stations that played their music.
Then it woulld be Album Oriented Rock.
 
We have to agree to disagree in his case, I still believe Adult Oriented Rock is a misuse of the acronym.
 
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Points: 415 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 01 2010 at 21:22
Should have stuck with the original term Art Rock
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Points: 8368 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 01 2010 at 21:23
I think AOR means "Analog Original Recordings" in other words, anything that was originally recorded on analog tape is considered AOR.
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Points: 1072 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 01 2010 at 21:39
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Starcraft? I didn't know Blizzard entertainment was around back then.


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I was looking at this big van called the "starcraft" yesterday and I thought, that's that band, but then I realized that it was Starship! Obviously the correction didn't stick. Its a new band to me. It takes a while to get all these stupid band and musician names. I thought Bruford was Buford and Van Der Graaf was Van Der Graf... or wait, have I got it wrong....

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Originally posted by thellama73 thellama73 wrote:

I think AOR means "Analog Original Recordings" in other words, anything that was originally recorded on analog tape is considered AOR.

Did you make this up just now to screw with us? I've never heard that before. The typical notation for analogue recordings is ADD (vs. DDD).

I've always found the variations in AOR to be confusing as well. I just use it as a slur and don't think too hard. ;-)
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Points: 37575 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 02 2010 at 03:53
Originally posted by Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

If it is used in broadcasting then it refers to a format of radio and not a style of music (as per the OP original question) - just as Progressive rock Radio format should not be confused with Progressive Rock.
 
 
Lately you are debating a lot, but no problem.
That dosen't mean I'm wrong though does it Wink
Originally posted by Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

 
As a fact AOR was used botg as Album oriented Rock and Album Oriented Radio.
...and as Adult Oriented Rock.
 
It's really is that simple - if people knew it as that in the 70s and if people know it as that today, then that's what it was. One acronym and three variants on its meaning.
Originally posted by Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

 
I belñieve the correct term for Adult Oriented Rock is Adult Contemporary.............But st
Then that would be an error and a travesty - AC artists like The Commodores, Simply Red and Celine Dion would never be called Adult Oriented Rock.
Originally posted by Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

 
 
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

You can't change history - since it was known as Adult Oriented Rock in the UK and Europe in the mid-70s then that is what it was known as in the 70s in the UK and Europe, regardless of what it meant in the USA or what it meant in the 80s, 90s and beyond. The meaning may have changed as it crossed the Atlantic but that is not misuse - quite the contrary - we didn't have masses of FM radio stations broadcasting album tracks like the USA, (and still don't), so its meaning over here could only refer to the bands themselves and not the radio stations that played their music.
Then it woulld be Album Oriented Rock.
...or Adult Oriented Rock.
 
I don't understand why you don't like the idea that people can have a different explanation of the acronym and apply it to the same list bands.
 
If I made up some fictious meaning like American Oriented Rock then that would be wrong, but Adult Oriented Rock is not made up, it is a term that was/is in common usage (even some people in the USA use it).
Originally posted by Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

 
We have to agree to disagree in his case, I still believe Adult Oriented Rock is a misuse of the acronym.
 
Iván
Simple: if you want me to agree to disagree then stop saying that I am misusing the acronym. Stern Smile


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Points: 4160 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 02 2010 at 05:08
AOR stands for 'AOR oriented rock'.Tongue
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Points: 37575 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 02 2010 at 05:12
Originally posted by clarke2001 clarke2001 wrote:

AOR stands for 'AOR oriented rock'.Tongue


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Points: 6797 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 02 2010 at 05:34

 Ii believe that current thinking is that AOR is used to describe Any Old Rubbish (Otherwise known as Pork Burger or Bacon Burger in Europe Wink)

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Points: 29630 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 02 2010 at 05:46
How about a-holes own radio?
Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Points: 19557 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 02 2010 at 10:01
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Simple: if you want me to agree to disagree then stop saying that I am misusing the acronym. Stern Smile
 
What's teh problem disagreing?
 
I would never believe Adult Oriented Rock is correct, I believe people read the acronym and created a different term that doesn't ffit the purpose it was created for.
 
But if you believe adult is OK, then none of us will convince the other.
 
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Points: 8368 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 02 2010 at 10:15
Originally posted by Henry Plainview Henry Plainview wrote:

Originally posted by thellama73 thellama73 wrote:

I think AOR means "Analog Original Recordings" in other words, anything that was originally recorded on analog tape is considered AOR.

Did you make this up just now to screw with us?



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Points: 37575 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 02 2010 at 10:28
Originally posted by Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Simple: if you want me to agree to disagree then stop saying that I am misusing the acronym. Stern Smile
 
What's teh problem disagreing?
 
I would never believe Adult Oriented Rock is correct, I believe people read the acronym and created a different term that doesn't ffit the purpose it was created for.
 
But if you believe adult is OK, then none of us will convince the other.
 
Iván
I have no problem with disagreeing, I have a problem with we'll agree to disagree, but I am right type statements. If you agree to disagree then you have to give the opponent's view equal weight; To agree to disagree you don't have to accept my argument, but you do have to tolerate it; To agree to disagree you cannot then go on to further qualify your position -  that's like calling a time-out then stealing a home-run (or whatever the appropriate sporting analogy is).
 
Ah, that's where we differ - I'm not trying to convince you of anything - just presenting the facts as they are, that the phrase exists in all three forms.
 
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I have no idea what AOR meant originally.  What it became to connote, here in the U.S., was radio-/listener- friendly rock.  I'm talking late-70's/early-80's.  The music, well it was Journey, Styx, Eagles, and yes Kansas and REO Speedwagon.  Might as well add Heart to the list.  On a good day they'd throw in some ELP, Pink Floyd, and Rush, but always the songs less likely to offend the ears of yer average listener.  Which is to say I'd dial it in and get Money, but never Pigs. 
 
If you go back to the early FM days and say it means Album Oriented Rock, well then even Frank Zappa is AOR, which I think is not what it has come to mean.
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Points: 8368 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 02 2010 at 13:55
I think it means "American Only Radio." None of those British pork burger bands allowed.
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Probably not very helpful, but as long as I have been tramping the streets of the great UK, it was always held to be Adult Orientated Rock.

The meaning - well, it's in the name - not for kiddiesWink
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Points: 2720 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 04 2010 at 09:18
I love this discussion. It's like watching a road accident.

The person shouting the loudest wins the argument.

Personally, I always knew it as Adult Oriented Rock, Album Oriented Radio just seems a weird concept whereas Album Oriented Rock also makes sense, probably more than the one I'm aquainted with.

Anyway, it doesn't mean I'm right, it's just what I've always heard.
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Hi everyone please visit my website at http://cdkimpan.webs.com/ , there you will find perhaps one of the most in-dept analysis of the meaning of AOR on the net.
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Originally posted by cdkimpan cdkimpan wrote:

Hi everyone please visit my website at http://cdkimpan.webs.com/ , there you will find perhaps one of the most in-dept analysis of the meaning of AOR on the net.
Kim
 
Interesting...We all are right LOL
 
Unusual, but nice.
 
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