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Posted: August 08 2010 at 17:50
aginor wrote:
can someone pleace recomend me some Rachmaninov, I have heard that he is very complex and "prog" in he's composing
the best music of Rach's ouput are the symphonies-there are 3 of them-conductor Lorin Maazel has recorded all three in a set which is quite lovely-if you can find it, i would suggest the 3rd Symphony conducted by Dr. Serge Koussevitzky who is a brilliant interpreter of this composer Rachmaninov was also a conductor and recorded the 3rd-highly recommended many people think highly of his piano music-for me it is ok, but the symphonies are a must
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Posted: August 08 2010 at 19:55
My signature provides an answer as for the first 5.
Bach - The Master of All That is Music
Beethoven
Mozart
Bruckner -The greatest symphonist of them all after Beethoven
Shostakovich - the master of my preferred form in the 20th century
Tchaikovsky
Brahms
Mahler
Sibelius
Haendel
Dvorak
Mussorgsky
And too many more... In the recent months I have pretty much turned my decent classical collection into a fantastic one. I've finally started getting multiple versions of the same works... I'm also digging into territories that used to be my least favorite ones like serialism...
I started with music with classical music. When I was 6 I discovered it thanks to my father. He used to paint in his study while listening to classical music and I always went there and drew my comic-like stories while listening to the sounds. I fell in love first with a cassette that had 2 serenades: Eine Kleine Nachtmusik (Mozart), and the Serenade for Strings by Tchaikovsky. Then I discovered thanks to my mo buying me a vinyl the 40th symphony by Mozart and The Four Seasons violin concertos by Vivaldi. My father listend to the music he enjoyed but my interest went far beyond, wanting to discover al there was to know about all composers and styles. I felt in love with Bruckner, Shostakovich, Mahler... My love for Beethoven really took form a few years later. Eventually I focused on the art of the greatest of them all and I couldn't fail to put him in my zenith, JS Bach.
I got some 6 (non continuous) years of rock and metal domination of my musical life but classical music has finally come back to its place. I rarely hear anything else anymore. Metal (specially non-prog metal) and some rock still manage to survive (especially my three loved bands DT, Genesis and Amorphis) but many acts, specially bands like Gentle Giant, I just cant stand anymore.
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Posted: August 08 2010 at 22:23
this is worth reporting- today i heard what i feel is the greatest recording of Bruckner's 6th Symphony -a studio stereo one recorded in 1963 conducted by Joseph Keilberth with the Berlin Philharmonic it is an example of an absolutely perfect recording in every way
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Posted: August 09 2010 at 12:22
Um, a few in no particularly fussy order
Poulenc (whom noone's mentioned yet : (... his concerto for two pianos is extraordinary) Saint-Saens Rachmaninov Grieg Bach Stravinsky, but that's more or less obligatory here
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Posted: August 09 2010 at 12:46
Noak wrote:
Giacinto Scelsi
I discovered him about two years ago myself. Seems like his one of the 00's great rediscoveries. If not the best on your list, he is probably the one with the most unique approach. A few of his works leaves me cold, but most of the albums I got by him are pure bliss.
Over land and under ashes
In the sunlight, see - it flashes
Find a fly and eat his eye
But don't believe in me
Don't believe in me
Don't believe in me
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Posted: August 09 2010 at 18:52
Not a huge classical fan, but Chopin definitely had a lot of wonderful works and I'd consider him my favorite classical compose. i don't know if Gershwin counts, but I'm a fan of his as well. Hmm, Bach and Debussy are good as well... I feel like I'm forgetting someone... Hans Zimmer has written some wonderful scores, but it seems I'm not much of a classical fan... Oh! Rachmaninoff! He's right behind Chopin.
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Posted: August 10 2010 at 17:21
Gandalff wrote:
No vote for Gershwin? No vote for Bernstein? Dear Americans, where is your national pride?
There are SO MANY better American composers than those two (specially better than Gershwin): Charles Ives, Aaron Copland, William Schuman, Samuel Barber, Walter Piston, Roy Harris, Elliot Carter, etc, etc.
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Posted: August 10 2010 at 23:43
The T wrote:
Gandalff wrote:
No vote for Gershwin? No vote for Bernstein? Dear Americans, where is your national pride?
There are SO MANY better American composers than those two (specially better than Gershwin): Charles Ives, Aaron Copland, William Schuman, Samuel Barber, Walter Piston, Roy Harris, Elliot Carter, etc, etc.
I´m sorry, but I absolutely don´t know any opus of these mentioned composers. On the other hand, Gershwin and Bernstein are played very often round the world. (Their quality, it´s another thing.)
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Posted: August 11 2010 at 03:47
The T wrote:
Gandalff wrote:
No vote for Gershwin? No vote for Bernstein? Dear Americans, where is your national pride?
There are SO MANY better American composers than those two (specially better than Gershwin): Charles Ives, Aaron Copland, William Schuman, Samuel Barber, Walter Piston, Roy Harris, Elliot Carter, etc, etc.
You are underrating Gershwin. He was a great composer. Do you know the
anecdote about Gershwin and Ravel? Gershwin wanted to study music with
Ravel as teacher. Ravel on the other hand did not see the necessity and
replied "Why would you want to become a second rate Ravel when you are a
first rate Gershwin"?
Listen to Gershwin's opera "Porgy and Bess"; the love duet between Porgy and Bess is one of the greatest duets ever written.
His suites "An American in Paris" and "Rhapsody in Blue" were revolutionary at their time; they fused jazz and classical music much better than Ravel or Shostakovitch had managed with their attempts at it.
Bernstein is VERY underestimated because he wrote a lot of very popular
music. However, there is a lot more to him than that; it just does not
get the airplay. Did you ever listen to his "Kaddish"?
And that Bernstein's music is popular does not make it bad at all; " West Side Story" is excellent., even though it has a few "hits" in it, like "Maria" or "America". Sometimes what is popular also is good.
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Posted: August 11 2010 at 13:54
I have Kaddish and a lot of Bernstein music (besides WSS)... I'm not saying he's a bad composer, I'm just saying there are other ones who are above him in my view. As a conductor, though, I love him.
Gershwin has been given little attention from me. I'm getting into listening more music from him but the things I'm familiar with don't convince me. He's like somewhere in between composer and jazz musician. Maybe my little love for jazz is behind my not-loving Gershwin...
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Posted: August 11 2010 at 17:48
i love the Dvorak 9th -have many versions, those dearest to my heart are the wartime one conducted by Oswald Kabasta and the Munich Phil. (long thought to have been done by Furtwanger,but not so)
Ferenc Fricsay and the Berlin Phil. early stereo on DG
Bruno Walter and the Columbia Symphony Orchestra -early stereo CBS
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