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    Posted: November 08 2010 at 05:03
Reading a very well written and researched biography on Jon Hiseman published recently and  co-authored by fellow PA member Martyn Hanson. Just over half way through but discovered a completeness combined with a lightness of touch that has me moving through and absorbing the book really easily.  Any others got this yet? Full review in a couple of week's time.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 08 2010 at 16:11
Yep, I have it too, and it's littered with unreadable signatures, see:

http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=72527

Do you write a review? Then I do not have to (no time)... Approve
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 09 2010 at 06:50
Originally posted by Formentera Lady Formentera Lady wrote:

it's littered with unreadable signatures,
 
 
Please explain.
 
 
I will certainly write a review for PA once I've completed reading the book.
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 09 2010 at 07:53

How satisfying it is when something you have been working on for over two years - correcting, honing, correcting again and then finessing...finally becomes reality and you hold the finished book in your hands. 

"Playing the band" ended up being bigger than originally planned...452 pages instead of around 350, mainly because Jon wanted to include over a hundred photos (many of which had never been published before), as well as adding a drum mini-tutorial and a computer appendix. Then a much more comprehensive index  added several more pages. Jon also decided that, in the interest of readability, the type size should be increased, as well as the line-spacing.  Up goes the production cost and, of course, the cost of shipping it, so the book's price had to be upped a bit to cover these unforeseen extra expenses.  So now the cover price is £16.95, a bit higher than we wanted, though various discounting means that, in all likelihood, no-one will actually have to pay the full price.

Sales on the tour gigs in Germany so far have been very encouraging and it looks like it will do well over there...and so it should, as Colosseum have always had a larger fan-base in Europe than in the UK, who remain loyal to the band, as Jon, Barbara Thompson, Chris Farlowe and Clem Clempson have been touring on and off there with various groups for more than four decades.  Barbara's band, Paraphernalia, built up an incredible following through the '80s & '90s and both she and Jon enjoyed further exposure, playing with the United Jazz and Rock Ensemble (aka "the Band of Bandleaders"...definitely worth checking out!) during that period.

All of which can be read about in this comprehensive biography of Jon Hiseman's life in music.  If you're at all interested in how the British jazz-rock and blues scene evolved from the '60s to the present day...you ought to read this book!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 09 2010 at 09:11
Hey, I see you're new here.... welcome...Hug
 
 
Dio you have anymore informations on this book (publisher, author, ISBN# etc....) and maybe a link to Hiseman's site???
 
It's customary to post these, here.
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 09 2010 at 09:40
Sure thing Sean...wasn't too sure that wouldn't be a bit too blatant a plug!   Here you go:

You can order through Jon's website: http://www.temple-music.com/
or direct from the online shop @   http://www.cka-net.com/acatalog/Temple_Music_Books.html
My blogsite also has some stuff on it.  It's @ colinrichardsonjazz.typepad.com 

and thanks for the friendly welcome.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 09 2010 at 11:12
Originally posted by londonjazzer londonjazzer wrote:

Sure thing Sean...wasn't too sure that wouldn't be a bit too blatant a plug!   Here you go:

You can order through Jon's website: http://www.temple-music.com/
or direct from the online shop @   http://www.cka-net.com/acatalog/Temple_Music_Books.html
My blogsite also has some stuff on it.  It's @ colinrichardsonjazz.typepad.com 

and thanks for the friendly welcome.
 
 
nothing too blatant, as long as it's related to the site's focusWink
 
Well I'm not an Admin here, but posting this in the blog section is probably not going to sit well with them...  They might move it of place.....
 
So if you don't find it here, don't panic...
 
Maybe in the Books and Misc forum or in the get the word out forum
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 09 2010 at 11:39
Duly noted, Sean.  I'll watch what happens.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 09 2010 at 16:33
Originally posted by Dick Heath Dick Heath wrote:

Originally posted by Formentera Lady Formentera Lady wrote:

it's littered with unreadable signatures,
 
 
Please explain.
 
 
I will certainly write a review for PA once I've completed reading the book.
 
I mean, I bought the book at the concert and let all six of them sign it. Cool
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 11 2010 at 04:25
Originally posted by Formentera Lady Formentera Lady wrote:

Originally posted by Dick Heath Dick Heath wrote:

Originally posted by Formentera Lady Formentera Lady wrote:

it's littered with unreadable signatures,
 
 
Please explain.
 
 
I will certainly write a review for PA once I've completed reading the book.
 
I mean, I bought the book at the concert and let all six of them sign it. Cool
 
Ah!! Cool!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 11 2010 at 05:59
The United Jazz And Rock Ensemble definitely deserve a lot more attention. They suffer from the problem that for a long time their albums were only available from 2001, a small shop chain with shops in Frankfurt, Cologne and Hamburg. But they were a fantastic abnd, as these videos prove:



I grew up with that band, in a way; they first appeared in a TV sitcom named "Goldener Sonntag" ("Goilden Sunday"), which was quite popular in Germany in the late 70s and was shown, you guessed, on Sundays at 11 am.. The sitcom had an interesting concept; it was played live, and the actors all called each other by their real first names. And at one point in each episode someone would switch on the TV, where the United Jazz And Rock Ensemble played one track live, and after that the TV was switched off again. The band did not have a name back then, and they were not always exac tly the same musicians, but when the TV-show turned out to be so popular the band finally was formed.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 12 2010 at 04:42
Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

The United Jazz And Rock Ensemble definitely deserve a lot more attention.
 
No argument - indeed I played a track off the group's Teamwork album last night on my show to illustrate Jon Hiseman's intricate stickwork. And indeed their albums would benefit from being more generally available - I followed you guidance BF and eventually got two albums for Germany but it should be easier for anybody outside your country..
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 15 2010 at 06:50
I hadn't heard about this TV programme...the first mention that Jon Hiseman makes is when they were recording 'Rockpalast' for WDR.  The reaction to these appearances was so good that they decided to play some live gigs...and the rest is (jazz/rock) history.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 15 2010 at 14:34
Jon recently invited me on tour with the band for a few dates to sign some books. I attended Hamburg, Worpswede, Paderborn and Bonn. Jon gave the book a great plug in the 'commercial break' part of the show and it was well received afterwards. I signed getting on for a 100 in all and can only imagine how well the book would have gone had it of been in German.
 
It's hard to believe the book is out at last as I started it so long ago.
 
It is my fourth book - the other ones being ELP, The Nice and The Groundhogs.
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 24 2010 at 11:46
The above review is reproduced with kind permission of Russell Newmark (author).
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 27 2010 at 07:04
Check out my Amazon review on the best and most insightful biography I've read on the rock/blues/jazz (aka jazz rock fusion) musician(s) I've read in a very long time:

I was very impressed by this entertaining and informative biography of one the greats of British jazz and jazz fusion, Jon Hiseman. While not quite 'warts and all', we do get a clear sense of the author standing back to analyse the various periods and changes in Hiseman’s musical life, helped in no small way by his having the opportunity to talk and tease out all the background details with many of the key players in his musical history. While this book is relatively long, there no sense of overdoing things to a point of tedium – space is made to describe and discuss events and developments. For these reasons, you will find more clarity and understanding of what makes Jon Hiseman and his long-term colleagues tick, than found in most published musical biographies. If there were any major regrets by any of the former members of Hiseman’s bands, they aren't obvious, but rather more hinted at by a sense of omission. Indeed, the honesty of  the text makes quite clear which players were hired and fired, but who then invariably speak of their time with Hiseman as being formative and/or educational. Later reunions clearly show that any bitterness was short-lived or even non-existent.  Indeed, the most critical of his role here is Jon Hiseman himself, but nevertheless Jon comes across as a comparatively nice guy – albeit somewhat hard-nosed and self-critical, but certainly as a survivor in the tough business of fusing jazz, rock and blues.

 

I did start to think at one point, that author Hanson was going to over-do Colosseum’s original 3 year period, but with 400 plus pages of text in total, there is no shortage of detail about all the other bands forming Hiseman's musical family tree, with plenty to mull over with respect to the post-1972 years . There are  individual, but interconnected histories of Colosseum, Tempest, Colosseum 2, Barbara Thompson's Paraphernalia as well as the Hiseman family business. This is not just the story of Jon Hiseman alone. In one sense, the neat, continual use of thumb-nail biogs of the key players reinforces the importance of each and every one of Hiseman’s bands, both to the author and Hiseman himself. In one particular area of importance we get to understand why Jon & Co. turned to Europe, achieving far more accolades and a large fan base here than in North America: Europe’s gain is America big, big loss.

So, I am pleased to report that this is one of the most comprehensive rock/jazz/(blues) biographies I’ve read in respect of its completeness and balance, due in no small part, I'm sure, to the access Martin Hanson had to the main players and, more importantly, their enthusiastic willingness to talk honestly and openly to him.  Thus you are getting the real deal, from the collective horses’ mouths, so to speak. All-in-all, this biography has a freshness, which clearly comes from the author’s enthusiasm for Hiseman and his music, but without any fawning or gratuitous flattery. I have to add the book is extremely readable – I can’t recall at any time flicking through any dull pages attempting to seek  something more readable. Finally, I also have a sense of being brought right up to 2010 in the company of musicians who are still working hard and making music that is still very much alive and relevant today.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 11 2011 at 11:05
Mr.Hiseman was always very kind to this Los Angeles Californian guitarist ever since I sent him stuff I played on in Switzerland since the early 80's,(Flame Dream);and with southern Californian bands & musicians.
Mr.Hiseman would always send me his kind written letters;and many cassette tapes of different albums by Paraphernalia.Barbara Thompson is indeed an awesome player,writer;and serious
flautist,saxophonist;and composer.(Her bassist Dave Ball is totally underrated.)

As an a American,Los Angeles professional guitarist-musician,it's very very sad + depressing that
Paraphernalia never got even known,never heard;nor ever toured in southern California let alone the United States.

Blessings and a  positive 2011 to all !!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 11 2011 at 11:26
Nice sentiments, Dale.  I will pass them on to Jon.  You are not the only one to have experienced Jon's generous spirit.  He has always supported fellow-musicians over the years and is always patient and responsive with his fans. In fact he is a total antithesis to the archetypal ego-driven 'star'. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 11 2011 at 11:28
PS  more nice reviews can be seen on my blog-site: colinrichardsonjazz.typepad.com
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