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    Posted: January 08 2011 at 12:49
i know that couple of years left behind , but there was no competition at that time , the real one started at the end of 1969 . as a magazine owner at that time , i use to get all available album released around the globe , from label companies via ordinary mail or by hand from people travelling around , also i still have a lot of copies of Melody Maker , Sound , Bravo ( Germany) , Billboard , Time Out etc ... etc even the copies of my magazine ( 1969 - 75 ) issues . So , i believe that 1972 - 73 was the most productive one in all terms ! what do you think ?   
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 08 2011 at 14:09
2009 maybe.

To be honest, I think anyone saying anything before 2000 is lying/fanboy/deluded/Walter. The internet has just helped so many more bands and artists get their material out there. There's enough material available in a post-internet (well, since it got popular) year to last me a lifetime. 

But yeah, that's in terms of how much material is available to the average music listener. Music actually made is a different story...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 08 2011 at 15:39
I think 2007 was a good year. that was also the first year i really got into prog, so i may be a bit biased
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 08 2011 at 15:46
Originally posted by Nathaniel607 Nathaniel607 wrote:

2009 maybe.

To be honest, I think anyone saying anything before 2000 is lying/fanboy/deluded/Walter. The internet has just helped so many more bands and artists get their material out there. There's enough material available in a post-internet (well, since it got popular) year to last me a lifetime. 

But yeah, that's in terms of how much material is available to the average music listener. Music actually made is a different story...


All of it is pure trash. Absurd quantity, yet nothing of quality. All these worthless internet bands, with their lousy digital home studios and samples and copped riffs, have added nothing to legacy of the art form once known music. Indeed, all they've done is saturate the information superhighway with dross that impedes people from accessing the real deal.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 09 2011 at 09:01
just looking at the tops year by year here on PA, I'd say 1971.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 09 2011 at 09:09
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 09 2011 at 09:29
Originally posted by hobocamp hobocamp wrote:

1973

Shhhh.... We're supposed to work around that one. LOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 09 2011 at 09:54
Are you referring only to quality TT, or is quality relevant to your topic too?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 09 2011 at 10:20
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Originally posted by hobocamp hobocamp wrote:

1973

Shhhh.... We're supposed to work around that one. LOL
Because of Tales and Play I presume?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 09 2011 at 13:04
Originally posted by hobocamp hobocamp wrote:

Originally posted by irrelevant irrelevant wrote:


Originally posted by hobocamp hobocamp wrote:

1973

Shhhh.... We're supposed to work around that one. LOL
Because of Tales and Play I presume?
 
No, I think because it's considered the epic, definitive, absolute, undisupted peak of the genre....
 
....by some.
 
 
 
 
 
Probably including me!


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 09 2011 at 14:07
For the classic age 72 and 73 definitely.  But for more recent times I would  say 2008. And 2009 were great years.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 09 2011 at 14:24
Originally posted by WalterDigsTunes WalterDigsTunes wrote:

Originally posted by Nathaniel607 Nathaniel607 wrote:

2009 maybe.

To be honest, I think anyone saying anything before 2000 is lying/fanboy/deluded/Walter. The internet has just helped so many more bands and artists get their material out there. There's enough material available in a post-internet (well, since it got popular) year to last me a lifetime. 

But yeah, that's in terms of how much material is available to the average music listener. Music actually made is a different story...


All of it is pure trash. Absurd quantity, yet nothing of quality. All these worthless internet bands, with their lousy digital home studios and samples and copped riffs, have added nothing to legacy of the art form once known music. Indeed, all they've done is saturate the information superhighway with dross that impedes people from accessing the real deal.
 
But Walter I also think about had pre '89 artists had some kind of digital medium to get their music out, how much more would there be? I mean how many potential new artists did we miss out on in the 70's and 80's because they had no means to get their music out to the public? Your right, it does not cost much to put out an album with the internet and home studios on a laptop.......but does that mean its all trash?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 09 2011 at 14:25
1973:
The Dark Side of the Moon
Selling England by the Pound
In a Glass House
Birds of Fire
Tubular Bells
Larks Tongue in Aspic
Camel
   I'm sure I forget a lot
'72&'73 were clearly the best years for prog, '74 was also  good.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 09 2011 at 15:20
If some-one would ask me, which rarely happens by the way, I'd say 1970 what the year prog got it's momentum. From that year on the course was set for progressive rock, which makes it the main productive moment for the movement for me.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 09 2011 at 16:15
Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

Originally posted by WalterDigsTunes WalterDigsTunes wrote:

Originally posted by Nathaniel607 Nathaniel607 wrote:

2009 maybe.

To be honest, I think anyone saying anything before 2000 is lying/fanboy/deluded/Walter. The internet has just helped so many more bands and artists get their material out there. There's enough material available in a post-internet (well, since it got popular) year to last me a lifetime. 

But yeah, that's in terms of how much material is available to the average music listener. Music actually made is a different story...


All of it is pure trash. Absurd quantity, yet nothing of quality. All these worthless internet bands, with their lousy digital home studios and samples and copped riffs, have added nothing to legacy of the art form once known music. Indeed, all they've done is saturate the information superhighway with dross that impedes people from accessing the real deal.
 
But Walter I also think about had pre '89 artists had some kind of digital medium to get their music out, how much more would there be? I mean how many potential new artists did we miss out on in the 70's and 80's because they had no means to get their music out to the public? Your right, it does not cost much to put out an album with the internet and home studios on a laptop.......but does that mean its all trash?

Exactly. What he seems to be suggesting is that if albums can't be released in the traditional manner, they must be sh*t. How can the number of albums overall go up, but only with the number of bad ones increasing? Not only is it silly, it's downright statistically impossible with numbers as great as they are. 

Besides, nothing wrong with home studios in my opinion, but then again, I'm not really an audiophile. 

Also, how does there being a lot of bad material stop people getting good material? That's a silly argument. There are loads of 60s' and 70s' bands who have pretty much only got popular once the internet rolled around. Well, I can't prove it, but you know the ones I mean - the obscure, usually one-album-wonder bands. 


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 09 2011 at 16:25
to be honest in this , and while still in the beginning of this , what i've meant , was only about Masterpieces & Excellent stuff that we have today !
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 09 2011 at 18:08
In the 70's, from 71 to 73 and in recent times from 06 to 09.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 09 2011 at 20:21
It depends of a genre.

Early 70's were great for Symphonic prog, but not so great in the late 70's. But the era was great for jazz rock fusion.

Electronic was great in 70's and first half of the 80's, it became atrocious in mid-late 80's, coming back to form as 90's advanced.

Avant prog has many facets and it's great in all periods: from The Residents to Kayo Dot.

First half of the 90's don't do much for me. But 95-00 period revealed some great prog. 00's too.


There are exceptions, of course.



If I had to pick my favourite prog year (for let's say 1967-2011) I would draw an envelope: a steep slope up in the 60's, high in the 70's, moderately going down, again jumping up in the 1980, steeply falling down almost to zero, remaining low through a chunk of the 90's and then going up in the last quarter, keeping more or less constant line to this day.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 09 2011 at 20:31
Originally posted by thehallway thehallway wrote:

Originally posted by hobocamp hobocamp wrote:

Originally posted by irrelevant irrelevant wrote:


Originally posted by hobocamp hobocamp wrote:

1973

Shhhh.... We're supposed to work around that one. LOL
Because of Tales and Play I presume?
 
No, I think because it's considered the epic, definitive, absolute, undisupted peak of the genre....
 
....by some.
 
 
 
 
 
Probably including me!

Yeah, that's what I was getting at.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 09 2011 at 21:46
1969. Because regardless of the quantity of music subsequently released, none can match the grandeur of our King's debut. 
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