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NinaHoo 
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 Posted: January 25 2011 at 08:53 |
it´s not bad at all!  It might just need more times to listen out than other JT albums. You need to sit down and listen, read lyrics and try to uderstand  and you´ll see.... masterpiece it is! |
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Posted: January 25 2011 at 08:57 |
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If you´re into fables and mammals wearing glasses, plus the fact that Ian Anderson blows in a saxophone instead of a flute through most of the album, you should probably dive into APP. It´s my favorite JT album alongside Stand Up, which is rather weird seeing that their is absolutely no way of comparing these albums.
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Posted: January 25 2011 at 09:16 |
 moshkito wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
A Passion Play is probably the greatest thing Jethro Tull ever did.
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Thank you Ep ...
I second that and then some.
It's a very tough album for most rock fans because it is not clear what all this is about and the cover doesn't make it any easier, and Ian is not gonna tell!
All in all, it is fabulous, and extremely enjoyable, and probably the one work of Jethro Tull that deserves the description of "progressive" because there is not much that could be considered progressive about "Thick as a Brick", even as a composition on its own. yes, I know this is not an opinion that many share here.
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You are throwing me into a time tunnel here. Would you care to comment further with a description of what you personally think "Thick as a Brick" would be musically? I'm not out-right saying that you are wrong. I would tend to think that the musical characteristics of the "Thick as a Brick" compositions are progressive in nature. Not so much the melody and chord progression at the intro of the thing as much as the later time signatures throughout the piece. Am I thinking like everyone else? Did I miss something? So what is it specifically that you are making observation of? Please explain.
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Negoba
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Posted: January 25 2011 at 09:37 |
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The first half of Passion Play is the proggiest Tull I know of, and my favorite. The second half is....not my favorite.
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Posted: January 25 2011 at 11:41 |
No is the straight answer to the question. It's a great album, and I'm not altogether sure "everyone" says it's bad 
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ThinLizzy
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Posted: January 25 2011 at 12:48 |
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My favourite Jethro Tull album and an essential for every prog fan. It seems to be underrated in this forum.
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And then one day you find
Ten years have got behind you
No one told you when to run
You missed the starting gun
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topographicbroadways
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Posted: January 25 2011 at 13:18 |
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its my favourite tull album. its the same as tales from topographic oceans following close to the edge, much harder to digest but much more fulfilling to hear
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Posted: January 25 2011 at 15:56 |
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Now where's Ronnie Pligrim Tom to wrap this in a nice package and sell it even if you don't want to? :P
But seriously, as people have previously stated, it's an acquired taste. It's one of those occasions when musical masochism usually pays off.
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Catcher10
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Posted: January 25 2011 at 17:20 |
Its a weird album...but weird is good in my world. Part 1 is absolute brilliance...some of the best work I think Tull ever did.
I don't recall seeing on the PA where it gets trashed.....It certainly does on other hard rock sites. Correct me if I am wrong but it charted very high on US Billboard back in the day right?
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Ronnie Pilgrim
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Posted: January 25 2011 at 18:22 |
Lizzy wrote:
Now where's Ronnie Pligrim Tom to wrap this in a nice package and sell it even if you don't want to? :P
But seriously, as people have previously stated, it's an acquired taste. It's one of those occasions when musical masochism usually pays off.
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Gosh, thanks for noticing when I'm not around. 
I've come to realize this work is probably only for the enlightened few. 
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moshkito
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Posted: January 25 2011 at 19:07 |
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I've come to realize this work is probably only for the enlightened few. |
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Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told!
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daslaf
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Posted: January 25 2011 at 19:23 |
Negoba wrote:
The first half of Passion Play is the proggiest Tull I know of, and my favorite. The second half is....not my favorite. |
I have to agree, some musical ideas in the second half, especially in the transitions from one musical idea to the other, are not that brilliant as in the first half... and the last 4-5 minutes are just there cause I think Ian had to end the story, nevertheless it's still a brilliant album.
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But now my branches suffer
And my leaves don't bear the glow
They did so long ago
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mrgd
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Posted: January 27 2011 at 22:25 |
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I would like to say that it's esoteric but that sounds a bit elitist. Fact is, it has polarised peoples views for so long , you'll just have to listen and make your own mind up . Many love it and a lot are very lukewarm about it, to be polite . But like a lot of less accessible prog, you must give it a fair go . It's taken some people years to appreciate it's challenges and I am one who does .
Badness just doesn't come into the equation in my view and , for what it's worth, it happens to be up there on a par with my other favourite TULL albums . One of it's best qualities as a piece of music is how it endures - you never get bored with it , at least I don't.
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Looking still the same after all these years...
mrgd
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rod65
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Posted: January 27 2011 at 22:56 |
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It's an excellent album. I find that it did not grab me with an initial rush of excitement the way that TAAB did, and that it demands a lot of attention to really enjoy, but that is true of much of the music that gets discussed here.
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The_Jester
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Posted: January 28 2011 at 06:46 |
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It's the very best prog album. Incredible.
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Posted: January 28 2011 at 06:58 |
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It's the Rodney Dangerfield of Tull's albums. I like the whole damn thing including the crazy middle part. The album really has some great lines:
"All along the icy wastes there are faces smiling in the gloom."
"Tell me: how the baby's graded, how the lady's faded,
why the old dogs howl with madness."
"(The examining body examined her body.)"
"I'd give up my halo for a horn and the horn for the hat I once had."
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened... 
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hobocamp
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Posted: January 28 2011 at 08:05 |
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Slarty's right. It don't get no respect.
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AtomicCrimsonRush
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Posted: January 28 2011 at 08:14 |
Ian Anderson is quoted as saying - If you have this album you are a real Tull fan.... He goes on to say that the album was really a product of its time and doesnt stand the test of time. The story on section 2 will not appeal tpo all - my kids like it as its like a childrens fable and they get it "you kan guru kan guru etc..."
I prefer TAAB, Benefit, Aqualung, dot com, Stand Up, Heavy Horses and Broadsword - but Passion Play is a curio and well worth a listen. Many proggers state it as a masterpeice, though I am no one of those. It is definitely one of the top ten Tull albums though.
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trackstoni
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Posted: January 28 2011 at 11:08 |
Epignosis wrote:
A Passion Play is probably the greatest thing Jethro Tull ever did.
For me, it sits alongside another poo-pooed album, Minstrel in the Gallery.
I've begun to think I "overrated" Thick as a Brick. It does very little for me in comparison to these two albums.
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 i feel the same about it , but cannot be a start to discover the wide world of JT , too complicated to say why in this post !
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Formentera Lady
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Posted: January 28 2011 at 11:10 |
Actually this is the only Jethro Tull album I really like (...running away.)
Edited by Formentera Lady - January 28 2011 at 11:11
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